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purplesyringa

6 months ago

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I love this. I've been wondering how the picture is drawn with less than one `echo` per pixel, and it's very clever: the game is "not really" 3D, so you can run raytracing just once per column, and then you only need to draw a couple of lines (for sky, grass, and the actual object) -- this is done by outputting the "draw this pixel and move down by one" string to the terminal as many times as necessary using string repetition.

I've been considering working on a voxel render engine (not for Bash, but for another computationally limited environment). This is a treasure, I'm certain I'll find something useful here.

https://github.com/EngineersNeedArt/Mooncraft2000

JKCalhoun

6 months ago

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The VoxelCanvas.js file (in Javascript, obv.) might be interesting to you as well. Same (raycasting) idea:

https://github.com/nTh0rn/batch-raycaster

tdeck

6 months ago

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In case you wondered if there is a raycaster written in MS Batch:

6 months ago

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That's really cool! The explanation on their blog is great!

rpoisel

6 months ago

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Thanks for the hint! That's exactly what I was looking for as I have never looked into raycasting but having an interest in it.

Direct Links:

- https://nthorn.com/articles/batch_raycaster/ (batch variant)

- https://lodev.org/cgtutor/raycasting.html (general intro)

6 months ago

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It's unfortunate that stty requires forking. Maybe the next project will be to use bash and rowhammer to call the necessary ioctls to do it without forking.

alsetmusic

6 months ago

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I had no idea this was possible with Bash. I’ve considered myself proficient with Bash at a pretty advanced level at times and this just blows me away. I don’t have the math chops to understand how it’s implemented, but it’s a pleasure to see.

einpoklum

6 months ago

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And to think, that my own bash scripts spend 300 lines just parsing various command-line options, while instead I could be showing this game... :-P

8n4vidtmkvmk

6 months ago

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I never ceases to baffle me how we're still stuck with these mind bogglingly slow shells. Pure madness. I can maybe understand that some apps require all the vt100 weirdness or whatever, but probably 90% of apps just write to stdout and err. Surely we can blit some text to the screen a bit quicker and put the other 10% into some compat mode.

PhilipRoman

6 months ago

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Shells are slow (particularly bash), sure, but I'm not sure how the rest of your comment follows from that. The shell is not involved in interpreting terminal escape sequences in any way, and modern terminals are quite fast - I can render animations in a 350-column terminal and they are as smooth as can be, given the constraints. Besides, the whole premise of this post is that bash is the wrong language for raycasting, kind of like writing bubblesort in CSS.

>put the other 10% into some compat mode

There is nothing preventing that, just test if the string contains sane characters only and use a fast path for that. The problem is that there is no actual fast path for software text rendering, you still need to process ligatures, etc.

markeroon

6 months ago

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Only 300 lines of code, impressive! I love this.

1vuio0pswjnm7

6 months ago

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"bash is slow."

That's in part why I do not use it for scripting. I do not use it for interactive use either.

Some popular Linux distributions also avoid bash as a scripting shell.

Teongot

6 months ago

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I'd love to see this combined with the author's fork()-less implementation of ps to make a (almost) fork()-free implementation of psDoom.

Seriously though, this is really cool

https://github.com/TheMozg/awk-raycaster/tree/master

mmh0000

6 months ago

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Of course, we need to give an honorable mention to the `awk` raycaster from 9 years ago.

6 months ago

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Cool Easter egg: https://github.com/TheMozg/awk-raycaster/blob/master/awkaste...

shric

6 months ago

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Beautiful. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like a bash version of https://lodev.org/cgtutor/raycasting.html

Edit: ah, just noticed this is in the readme :(

svag

6 months ago

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There are https://lodev.org/cgtutor/raycasting2.html and https://lodev.org/cgtutor/raycasting3.html just FYI

6 months ago

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yeah i really liked that tutorial

anfractuosity

6 months ago

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Very cool! I'm curious when it says "did you know that accessing a random element in an array takes linear time", why that's the case, with bash?

6 months ago

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normal arrays in bash are implemented as linked lists. bash stores a pointer to the last accessed element, which turns the most common case of iteration into O(1), but the performance is terrible if you need to jump around

see some basic benchmarks here https://gist.github.com/izabera/16a46ed79c2248349a1fb8384468...

there are also associative arrays which are bucketed hash tables, which are fine for string keys but imho they are hardly ever worth it as a replacement for indexed arrays

anfractuosity

6 months ago

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Thanks a lot, that's very interesting re. it using linked lists, and nice benchmark!

armSixtyFour

6 months ago

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Sadly I can't get this working. It just throws up the view into a file called buffered for whatever reason and exits immediately :(

6 months ago

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try `bash game.bash 2>errors` and see the content of that file when the game exits

mlconnor

6 months ago

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Wow, that’s an insane challenge. I can’t believe that’s even possible.

CaesarA

6 months ago

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I wonder if texture mapping this would look good.

6 months ago

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She has been brainstorming how to handle texture mapping within the performance constraints of doing it in bash for a week now (long before she actually got this working) and so far we've come up with some hypothetical ideas but she has not tried any of them yet. Maybe tomorrow...

corytheboyd

6 months ago

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Imagine a TUI where you need to navigate a literal maze of options

6 months ago

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Many CLI programs which take option have already managed to do this (in the text-based adventure game style).

jaynetics

6 months ago

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Like this one in Jurassic Park? https://youtu.be/URVS4H7vrdU Funnily enough, the slow rendering is kind of a plot device here.

6 months ago

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The program from that scene was not some crazy invention for the purpose of having an interesting computer scene. It is a real piece of software for silicon graphics workstations called fsn (File System Navigator).

There's a x windows remake of it called fsv: https://fsv.sourceforge.net/

And then there's this even cooler UI which takes this whole idea much further called eagle mode: https://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/

rzzzt

6 months ago

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psDooM pits you against processes on the system represented as enemies: https://psdoom.sourceforge.net/

krapp

6 months ago

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That's the kind of "futuristic interface" you'd see in a cyberpunk movie, and it would be incredibly annoying in real life.