Show HN: Amurex – An open source AI meeting copilot
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5 months ago
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SparkyMcUnicorn
5 months ago
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While I was looking for how to swap out the backend to self-hosted, I noticed that analytics is hardcoded to true. Something to be aware of.

Found this the other day on GitHub and have been meaning to try it out. Guess I'll be setting up the backend and modifying the hardcoded config in the extension.

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jtswole
5 months ago
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> While I was looking for how to swap out the backend to self-hosted, I noticed that analytics is hardcoded to true. Something to be aware of.

Hostility is definitely not the intention, which is why we provide a way to turn it off in the config.

But looks like we should provide a way to turn it off in a settings page somewhere too.

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sneak
5 months ago
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Co-opting computers you don’t own to spy on the activities of the owners of those computers without their consent is unethical.

The name we use for software that contains such functionality serving only its remote developer is “spyware”.

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arunc
5 months ago
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Or turn it off by default and the interested users can turn it on.
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Bjartr
5 months ago
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As far as I can tell looking around the repo, An open source frontend for a proprietary AI meeting copilot

Did I miss something?

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niyogi
5 months ago
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i was wondering the same thing until i found the rest of it:

https://github.com/thepersonalaicompany/amurex-backend

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Bjartr
5 months ago
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Thanks! I missed that.
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jtswole
5 months ago
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Everything is open source under AGPL licence. Maybe I can improve the README. What was harder to find for you?
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Bjartr
5 months ago
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The backend repo, but I'll chalk that up to not realizing I was only seeing pinned repos for your organization on github mobile.
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bravura
5 months ago
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Can you please just do plain-old transcription with speaker diarization? That's the most important starting point for me.

[edit: The summaries are usually bad and I always want to refer back to what was specifically said through LLM Q+A]

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jtswole
5 months ago
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We do it right now :D

Just click on the download transcript

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sandropuppo
5 months ago
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nice product, congrats! maybe I would just change the UVP in the repo a bit to understand better why the product is different, besides the open-source part of it.
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jtswole
5 months ago
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Thank you! We have the ability to do real time suggestions based on your context files like Cursor but for meetings. and also late meeting recaps.

But thank you, need to update the readme now :D

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niyogi
5 months ago
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great start/work with this! i think clarification on the "it's free (for now)" mention on the website would be worth clearing up.
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jtswole
5 months ago
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Good shout. We will add a paid tier at some point, but unsure of the pricing for now. However, the self hosted version will be free forever and there will be a generous free tier too.

Do you have any suggestions for the copy?

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thih9
5 months ago
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> We will add a paid tier at some point, but unsure of the pricing for now. However, the self hosted version will be free forever and there will be a generous free tier too.

What you wrote above is clear and helpful to me - and in any case I find it more useful than "it's free (for now)".

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tiahura
5 months ago
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Great concept.

Do this for Outlook and Teams.

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ahofmann
5 months ago
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jtswole
5 months ago
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Doing! https://www.amurex.ai/early

You can sign up here if you want to be informed when we launch it.

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amelius
5 months ago
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Maybe it is better to not use the word copilot in this context because MS has a trademark on it that they will have to defend.
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lolinder
5 months ago
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They have a pending trademark for Microsoft Copilot—do they also have an application for Copilot, unqualified?

https://trademarks.justia.com/981/61/microsoft-98161972.html

Edit: I found one for GitHub Copilot but no evidence of an unqualified trademark:

https://trademarks.justia.com/974/60/github-97460083.html

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jtswole
5 months ago
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Thank you for suggestion. But in all honesty, f*ck Microsoft.

Trying to trademark copilot is trying to trademark something like ASI or AGI. Co-pilot has been widely used in the aviation industry, and by definition means a person/companion who can help you navigate.

So, I hope their trademark request gets rejected ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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sitkack
5 months ago
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Microsoft doesn't get to own the world Copilot for everything.
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layer8
5 months ago
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Not for everything, but for AI assistants they conceivably could.
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dutchbookmaker
5 months ago
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Personally, I don't think it really works either as a brand. A meeting is not that complicated that you need a "copilot". A stenographer is not a "copilot". This only worked with the hubris and obnoxiousness of tech people who think they are doing more than they are.

Normal people in the workforce know their boring job that this is trying to help automate isn't that complicated or exciting. The analogy with aviation couldn't make less sense for most jobs when trying to automate the boring aspects.

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layer8
5 months ago
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This subthread was about the legal implications of a trademark. For that it doesn’t matter whether the word choice is successful as a brand.
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remram
5 months ago
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In the USA, being sued is 99% of the punishment, losing the suit does not really matter. Especially when faced with a big corp like this.

You should think about what might get you in legal trouble, whether you might prevail is not relevant to your bottom line unless you are a Fortune 500 yourself.

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lolinder
5 months ago
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Unfortunately, by that logic you could conclude that competing with Microsoft at all would be out of question because in theory they could sue you into oblivion with a completely arbitrary lawsuit.

The real world isn't quite that bad, so OP is correct to observe that Microsoft does not in fact have a trademark on Copilot, they have a pending trademark on Microsoft Copilot and GitHub Copilot. Given that their own trademarks (owned by different subsidiaries) include a second word to qualify them and would pose a substantial risk of confusion with each other if Copilot alone were treated as the mark, I think it's reasonable to argue that Microsoft couldn't claim a trademark on Copilot, unqualified, and is unlikely to even try to assert it.

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remram
5 months ago
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> you could conclude that competing with Microsoft at all would be out of question because in theory they could sue you into oblivion

That is my conclusion yes.

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ashryan
5 months ago
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> 1. Install Amurex from the Chrome Web Store

Wishing the project well, but this is where it stops for me unfortunately.

Are there any similar tools that aren't browser dependent?

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cheema33
5 months ago
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Same. I am pretty relaxed about privacy. But browser extensions are usually a hard pass for me. I grudgingly installed 2. An ad blocker and 1Password. It would take a lot for me to install a third. I usually do not trust browser extensions.
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jtswole
5 months ago
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It is open source so you can inspect the code :D
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jtswole
5 months ago
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> Are there any similar tools that aren't browser dependent?

We might come up with something like this ;) What platform do you use for meetings? Or these some other issue for it being made for Chrome?

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ashryan
5 months ago
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I'd rather something like this either:

1. Work outside of the browser altogether (i.e., be built as an app for the OS), or 2. Integrate directly into the service it is targeting (i.e., G Suite add-ons, etc.)

I may be in the minority.

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jtswole
5 months ago
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I understand that this is your preference. But I still don't understand why do you prefer that instead.
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