Show HN: I made a website that makes you cry
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9 months ago
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| cryonceaweek.com
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ochronus
9 months ago
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But I already have Jira for that
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Hi everyone! Thank you so much for your appreciation for the site (except that one guy who hated it). Pretty awesome to see this little side project make it to the front page on here.

I'm working on a new project called Feel (https://www.feelapp.io) which is an app that helps you feel all emotions on demand. It goes beyond just crying and helps you navigate and shift your mood in real time. It can make you cry too though. Or feel joy, awe, confidence, serenity, or even process difficult emotions like anger or fear when you need to.

This isn't an ad or shameless plug I promise - I'm actually looking for a creative developer to join the team and help us take it to the next level. Please reach out if this resonates with you or share with your creative coder friends: johnny@feelapp.io

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FireInsight
9 months ago
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Not gonna lie, this whole "Feel - Emotions on Demand" thing sounds like a slightly dystopian scifi concept. Maybe like a Black Mirror -style parody of how even emotions can be manufactured nowadays.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I get that reaction and see how it could sound a bit Black Mirror ish. It's literally just art and curated audiovisual experiences designed to help you feel and process your emotions though.

We’re already living in a scifi dystopia where our emotions are constantly being manipulated by social media, algorithms, ads, etc. Feel is an attempt to offer an intentional alternative. It's not about manufacturing emotions. It's about moving through them more consciously with greater awareness and emotional intelligence.

I appreciate the comparison and feedback though. I welcome it all.

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GTP
9 months ago
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Not a psychologist, but I have doubts that this is a more conscious and aware way of going through emotions. If you're so stressed about something that it makes you cry, this is a signal that there is something wrong that you need to change or takle/face in some way. If you're inducing cry once a week to relieve your stress, you're instead trying to silence the signal telling that something might be wrong. Like taking a painkiller after breaking a bone, but without taking care of the fracture that is causing the pain.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm not a psychologist either but we have top psychologists and neuroscientists on the team and the project is grounded in leading psychological and scientific research. cryonceaweek.com was actually inspired by a Japanese research project that found crying can relieve stress for up to a week.

I would argue that releasing your emotions isn't comparable to taking a painkiller. A painkiller numbs the problem. Letting yourself cry and feel and release your emotions brings them to the surface. I've actually received a lot of responses from people who have told me the site has helped them confront emotional issues they have been avoiding or unable to face.

The app goes a lot deeper than you're describing by helping you understand what you're feeling and identify/label your emotions, receive insights on why you're feeling something by identifying triggers and patterns, and then helping you shift your mood when you need to. It could maybe be considered a painkiller in the moment, but it's also a vitamin that improves your well-being and emotional intelligence over time.

There was actually a new study that came out recently called The Big Joy Project that found that just a few minutes per day of intentional emotional shifts can improve your well-being in a week.

It's super important to me that the project so grounded in sound research so this is a big focus of ours. Appreciate you sharing your perspective and feedback.

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GTP
9 months ago
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Thanks for your reply. I indeed missed tha part that helps identifying emotions and their root cause, that's a crucial functionality that significantly changes the picture.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I'll update the site soon to make that more clear. Appreciate your feedback
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Lalabadie
9 months ago
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Of course, but a lot of therapy in North America nowadays becomes needed not because the patient can change fundamentals variables in their life (job, family situation), but as a coping mechanism for these variables being out of wack with no discernible path to change.

Its far from ideal and indeed borderline dystopian, but to borrow your metaphor, it's the difference between a fracture, and a fracture with some painkillers available.

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LtWorf
9 months ago
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Perhaps some revolutioning would be a better cure then?
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throwanem
9 months ago
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I believe Soylent Green has some prior art.
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bejd
9 months ago
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Sounds like the "Penfield Mood Organ"[0] from Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. Characters "dial" emotions, from basic to extremely specific (e.g. "481. Awareness of the manifold possibilities open [...] in the future", or "888 [...] The desire to watch TV, no matter what's on it")

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penfield_mood_organ

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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It could be considered similar to this. In a way the Penfield Mood Organ could be seen as something that gives people emotional autonomy and optimization, not too different than choosing the right music for the moment to shift your mood.

Of course with something like this there are also concerns about emotional conformity and losing authenticity. And questions about what is considered a real authentic emotional experience vs a manufactured one.

Some might consider what we're building "manufactured" emotional experiences. But are emotions elicited from music and movies manufactured? Just because something is happening on a screen or coming through speakers doesn't make it any less meaningful. Our brains don't know the difference and the feeling is real.

Media influences our emotions probably more than anything right now and for the most part is currently being fed to us by algorithms designed to prey on our most vulnerable feelings. What we're building gives you the ability to regain control over your emotions and inner world. It's more about using art, audiovisual, media, storytelling, and guided practices to move you through something real. It's about emotional awareness, exploration, and transformation more than artificially induced control. Of course like any tech it's up to people how they choose to use it. But we are trying to design it in a way that prioritizes the emotional benefit and personal growth of each user.

It's an interesting philosophical conversation that could go much deeper. I appreciate the feedback and reflection.

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shazbotter
9 months ago
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Wait till you learn about art, where other humans use audio visual mediums to evoke feelings. It's going to blow your mind.
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MrGilbert
9 months ago
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That is… nothing new? At least for me, music does the same. It can make me cry, make me happy or make me angry. I can spin up a CD and get in each mood I desire. Or, and that’s the great thing about it, get out of it.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I love that you just said spin up a CD
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xg15
9 months ago
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Would be a shame if someone picked those up and surreptitiously inserted them in feeds of their social network to manipulate the users' emotions- I mean, "maximize engagement"...
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shannifin
9 months ago
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Hmmm... Nothing made me cry. I will diminish and go into the west.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Godspeed
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wmeredith
9 months ago
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I had a similar reaction, probably because I don't care about dogs.
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unclekev
9 months ago
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Well the site definitely works.

Currently going through a extremely difficult time at the moment with my amazing cat that is dying of CKD/CHF.

First video this site showed me is "A scene from the movie A Dog's Purpose (2017). A family's dog reaches the end of his life."

Now I cant stop crying.

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M4v3R
9 months ago
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When my cat passed away I wept like a baby. He was my friend and companion when we travelled across the country for 10 years. It’s been 5 years since and I still tear up whenever I think about him.

Sending virtual hugs in your direction.

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KolibriFly
9 months ago
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Losing a pet is heartbreak on a whole different level. Wishing you and your cat peace and comfort in whatever time you have left together
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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So sorry to hear about your cat. Sending you strength through this difficult time.
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gadders
9 months ago
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Our cat died last year due to blood clots in has back legs. He was a good cat.
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throwanem
9 months ago
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I still miss my guy five years on. It's rough. Make the most of the time while you have it.
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Tom1380
9 months ago
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My cat passed from CKD last year, it sucks. I feel you man. Stay strong
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captainkrtek
9 months ago
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My condolences <3
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ochronus
9 months ago
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Been there, sending love
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floppiplopp
9 months ago
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Well, I was reassured I'm just a cynical old bastard, so that's worth something, I guess. To me all the videos I saw, around a dozen, were all (by accident?) emotional cheap-shots, the low-hanging fruit of manipulation. For example: When I see a clip of Brooks Hatlen, the elderly librarian from The Shawshank Redemption, make his final voyage after being released, I get shown an old man take his own life (spoiler! but the movie is 30 years old now, so c'mon). That itself is somewhat sad, yes, but the feelings come from the context of the movie and what the viewer is shown before. So the clip falls flat, even with knowledge of the movie/book. Simply getting shown sad things does not make me cry, especially in short clips out of context.
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CMay
9 months ago
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I've been collecting videos for years that make me shed tears. I don't easily shed tears if it feels a little too manufactured. Usually what works best for me is just seeing actual genuine unprompted emotion, though sad scenarios without any emotion can do it if the sentimentality is balanced well.

Tried maybe 5-6 videos on the site and none of them worked. :/ Just watched one of my old videos, boom, instant tears.

Don't know about the health implications of crying once a week or anything, but sometimes if I'm feeling a little out of touch with life, watching something sad does help.

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moralestapia
9 months ago
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I'm curious.

Can you share one of those videos?

(None of the videos on the site made me feel bad, even slightly.)

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CMay
9 months ago
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alienbaby
9 months ago
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Maybe your approaching it from the wrong viewpoint.Crying doesn't have to be because you feel sad, it can come though feeling empathy, or even joy
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ctrl4
9 months ago
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I cry every time I see the movie Coco. I've found that things that have to do with grand parents makes me cry the most. I've losed my grandfather on covid's because they stopped treating him to focus on younger people.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Sorry it didn't work for you! Everybody is different and I tried to include a variety of universally tear-inducing videos. But of course it won't work for everyone. I've found it works for about 90% of people.

What videos make you cry? Curious to see how they compare. Also, not all the videos on the site are sad. Some are happy tears.

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CMay
9 months ago
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Here is one example: https://youtu.be/y02xPRX6vCE?t=1376

Basically anything absolutely genuine and authentic, especially where I have enough information to understand the context of their emotion so that I can relate better.

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sam-
9 months ago
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Of course they are!
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domaaju
9 months ago
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Thanks for sharing, I have my wedding in two days and have been a nervous wreck, the cry was a good release.
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KolibriFly
9 months ago
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Wishing you all the best for the big day! May the only tears be happy ones
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Enjoy the day! Congrats
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pmarreck
9 months ago
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I probably do need a good cry since my breath does that repeated-hesitation thing when I breathe in sometimes (not sure if there’s a name for it yet, but you also do it for a while after you’re done crying, I call it “aftershocks” then… but this is like, all the time for me now…)
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jevogel
9 months ago
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Hitching.
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throwanem
9 months ago
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Yeah. If it isn't actually accompanied by emotions that suggest a cause, you really might want to see a doctor about that. If you also sleep on your side, go for the home sleep study if offered, it's worlds more convenient.
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pmarreck
9 months ago
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Is that the name for it? That word means "to attach" or "to marry" to me, lol
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BizarroLand
9 months ago
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hitch

verb move (something) into a different position with a jerk. travel by hitch-hiking. informal obtain (a lift) by hitch-hiking. fasten or tether. harness (a draught animal or team). noun a temporary difficulty or problem. a knot of a particular kind, typically one used for fastening a rope to something else. a device for attaching one thing to another, especially the tow bar of a motor vehicle. an act of hitch-hiking. informal a period of service. informal

Slanguagely: "There is a hitch in your get-along", implying "there is a difficulty with your system/process/activity"

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throwanem
9 months ago
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That's not what that means! If you want to put a hitch in my gitalong, for example, you might try a really saucy compliment.
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BizarroLand
9 months ago
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I won't argue that the usage can change, and I could see how it could also be used to imply that one's posterior moves in a pleasing manner, but in my experience it has only been used to indicate an issue:

Marjorie Kimmerle & Patricia Gibby, "A Word-List from Colorado," in Publication of the American Dialect Society (April 1949) has this entry for the term hitch:

    hitch: n. A crick ; a limp. Used only in the expression "He's got a hitch in his git-along." Said of horses and people. OED, A limp, a hobble, an interference in a horse's pace.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/283244/hitch-in-...
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throwanem
9 months ago
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Which experience would this be? That is a Stack Overflow link you posted. But I would expect such a footless prescriptivist to behave in just so ill informed a manner; excuse my short patience, I understand this actually is your best that you're showing.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Interesting. I'd be curious to know if crying helps it at all. It could be anxiety or stress related. Have you tried breathing exercises?
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pmarreck
9 months ago
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Well, that's probably part of the issue- I seem unable to have a good cry, and haven't had one in years frankly, even when my mom died
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Could be an emotional block for some reason.

I'm working on a new project that goes deeper and helps you identify the root causes of things like this so you can better process and release your emotions. Would love for you to test it out when it's ready if you want. You are kind of who I'm building this for: https://www.feelapp.io

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pmarreck
9 months ago
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oooh. wow. yeah, I am the target market lol. I'm looking now! Just signed up for the waitlist.

Not sure if related, but I had kind of a miserable childhood (authoritarian parents, difficulty in fitting in due to being an insecure runty nerd, being a late bloomer due to late-onset hormones caused women to not be interested until much later, etc.) and I used to cry, I'd say, a lot, and then one day I suddenly stopped (not sure why, but just kind of got fed up with doing it?), and I basically haven't had a good cry since. Not through relationship breakups, not through my mom passing away, not through pet losses. I'd tear up a little, maybe while listening to a song that touched me, that's it. I reckon I haven't had a good, long, sincere cry in almost 40 fucking years.

My parents are German and pretty stoic, not sure if related. When my dad's parents and brother and sister died, I didn't see him cry. The ONLY time I saw him cry (which was jarring, as a kid) is when his beloved sailboat washed up on the rocks during a hurricane. He did kind of wail when he was walking the dog that got away from him and which then got immediately run over, but...

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Thanks so much for signing up and sharing this with me.

When you say "not sure if related" I would say most probably yes. Most emotional issues come from our childhood. It's interesting that your parents are German too. There have been a few other Germans that said the site didn't work for them and they have trouble crying. Seems like definitely a cultural thing there.

Many of us as kids are told things like "don't cry, cheer up, calm down" etc, etc by our parents and other adults who we are desperately seeking approval from and reliant on for care and survival. So we may not even realize it at the time, but we conform and change to please them. We feel like we need to be a certain way in order to receive their love and care and attention.

I think the answer could be in that one day you suddenly stopped crying. It's interesting that you say you're not sure why. Sometimes we can forget moments like this because they can seem insignificant at the time but they actually are meaningful. Sometimes it can be more difficult than people who experienced something super traumatic and are able to pinpoint that that was when things changed.

What often happens is we either experience or suppress an emotion without much awareness, and rather than letting it pass or move through us, we ruminate on it and get caught in emotional loops. Then that emotion or the suppression of it becomes a mood. Then that mood becomes a personality trait. Then that personality trait becomes who we are. And years later we can find ourselves wondering why we feel the way we do or how the hell we ended up this way, because it was something that started when we were kids and we didn't understand how all this stuff works and unfortunately no one really told us or guided us.

I'm really excited for you to try the app. We are designing it so you can input things like this and it can help guide you to deeper understanding while processing and releasing necessary emotions. I'm building it for people like you where you are now, and also for younger people so they can catch these issues before 40 years fly by without shedding a single tear. It's never too late though. It's great that you are recognizing all this and I hope the app is able to help you.

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pmarreck
9 months ago
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Hey, really appreciate it! I will keep an eye out for the invite. If you're feeling generous, my email that I signed up on the waitlist for is lumbergh@gmail.com

Also, thanks for pushing in this direction.

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I've added your email to the list of beta testers. Excited to share it with you soon!
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thom
9 months ago
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I am (un)fortunate in that I'm a massive softy so don't need to bring out the big guns like this. I cried four times during Superman last week.
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xerox13ster
9 months ago
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Oh I was bawling during the Pa Kent scene in the theater yesterday, it was so good. I also cried at the way Superman was distraught over the treatment of the monster, and then also the scene with the kid and the flag.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I haven't seen it yet, will have to check it out. Didn't expect it to be a tearjerker.
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klas_segeljakt
9 months ago
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I thought I wouldn't cry but then I cried
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KolibriFly
9 months ago
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Classic emotional ambush
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Got you
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slyall
9 months ago
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As an employee of a large enterprise SaaS company I was expecting something different
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bombcar
9 months ago
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If this doesn’t have lil brudder it’s a crime.

He can make it on his own!

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01HNNWZ0MV43FF
9 months ago
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He's got the heart of a champion Q_Q
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Babkock
9 months ago
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You made me cry, you jerk! I just had eye surgery, and you make me watch a dog dying. You'll be hearing from my lawyers!
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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See you in court
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Jeremy1026
9 months ago
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Estelle! Is that you?
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fruitplants
9 months ago
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I am Frank Costanza's lawyer.
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theletterf
9 months ago
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A piece of music that always makes me cry is Gavin Bryars' Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_njWv6ssGZFL5TYEDOf...

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oneeyedpigeon
9 months ago
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I haven't investigated the site because I don't want to cry right now, but I think it's a great idea! A good cry can be cathartic, and once a week sounds about perfect. I have a 'songs to cry to' Spotify playlist for precisely this reason.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Thank you! Come back when you're ready :)
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monista
9 months ago
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Made me laugh, thank you! Laughing is healthy, though should be taken more often than once a week. For the record, it gave me https://player.vimeo.com/video/994963176
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Crying once a week is great but as Charlie Chaplin said, a day without laughter is a day wasted, which I agree with. Happy I was able to help regardless.
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junon
9 months ago
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Definitely thought you were a bit scary at first, but... yeah, that definitely wouldn't have made me cry lol
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mjcohen
9 months ago
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I find that improv classes are good sources of laughter.
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OuterVale
9 months ago
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This site brings me to tears every time I visit. Sometimes joyful, sometimes sad. Usually melancholy.

https://thesoundof.love

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deadbabe
9 months ago
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I already cry once or twice a week, usually when going to sleep.
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jagged-chisel
9 months ago
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How can I grab a link for a video to share that specific video?
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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All the videos are linked on vimeo which you can copy and share. But be sure to share the site as well :)
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layer8
9 months ago
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The Vimeo logo in the video is a link to the video on vimeo.com.
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jagged-chisel
9 months ago
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The first video I got didn’t have the vimeo logo in the controls. I guess the play size was too small? Others have had it, but I can’t seem to find that first one at all.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Hmm maybe it doesn't show on mobile? You can also copy and paste the description on youtube. You should be able to find them there.
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stepupmakeup
9 months ago
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Bandai Namco made a (Japanese-only) DS / Mobile game that did the same thing, 99 No Namida. Got a tiny bit of western media coverage due to the absurdity.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Interesting. I haven't heard of that before. The idea for the site was actually inspired by a Japanese researcher who teaches people how to cry once a week.
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Tade0
9 months ago
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Works for me. Most reliable SaaS (Sadness as a Service) I've seen in the past years.

I have a collection of clips that worked on me specifically which I used to gauge my state - not crying is a cause for concern, but over the years I got desensitised to them.

I'm almost afraid to ask: are Japanese Toyota ads in there?

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Sadness as a Service - I love that. Thank you.

I don't think any Japanese Toyota ads are on there. I'll check them out. Always open to suggestions for additions.

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Tade0
9 months ago
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luismedel
9 months ago
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Man, that touched me.
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m3kw9
9 months ago
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If you ask AI to recommend or gen a video to make you cry, it may just show you a video of someone cutting onions.
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KolibriFly
9 months ago
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We doomscroll all week, maybe it is time we schedule a cathartic cry like it's a dental appointment
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throwanem
9 months ago
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More like going to a massage parlor. I used to work opposite one of those. Believe me, whatever you think you can imagine on the faces of men as they walked out that door, you really have to have seen it. Even I couldn't find the heart to catcall abuse, not even at the men who'd already put back on or never taken off their rings.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Yes! You get it
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rrr_oh_man
9 months ago
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Great idea. To reduce the likelihood of repeat draws, maybe you could check out decay weighting.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I've tried to make it so videos don't repeat but will look into that, thanks
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higgins
9 months ago
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When did you launch this? 300 tiktok followers in a day seems like great engagement
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I actually launched it like a year ago. I'm working on a new project now called Feel (https://www.feelapp.io) which I've grown to over 40k followers on IG and tiktok
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higgins
9 months ago
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incredible! is this a single channel strategy? are you paying for a meme database? agentic posts?

feel's website looks great

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weixei
9 months ago
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Is there a website that makes people laugh, I want to laugh once a week?
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I thought about making that but there are so many comedy sites and platforms already. Funny or Die, Comedy Central, comedians on youtube, memes on social media, etc.
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jorisboris
9 months ago
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My thoughts exactly

When I’m tired or uninspired I notice laughter gives me energy

But I would like instant access to it

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rc5150
9 months ago
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I want this in literally every other emotion, except for anger, because there's already a site for that called reddit.com
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Hobadee
9 months ago
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IT here. I don't need a website; I have users.
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SanjayMehta
9 months ago
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I miss alt.sysadmin.recovery
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teddyh
9 months ago
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“scary devil monastery”.
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devjab
9 months ago
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I've been in SWE in non-enterprise for decades and right now I'm seated with IT and operations because our two teams total less than 15. The amount of users who open tickets with "I have this issue" and then send a screenshot of some error in a browser with absolutely no context... Not even the full browser image, just a small snapshot of the completely meaningless error... As though they expect the IT support people to just know what they were doing? My twin todlers who haven't learned to speak yet are still somehow better at telling me what is wrong when something is wrong.

I'm always amazed at how friendly the IT support people manage these things.

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teddyh
9 months ago
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It is with the confidence of decades of experience that I can say that the problem is that you have a bad attitude about your job.

(I have elaborated on this in the past: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17164086>)

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throwanem
9 months ago
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It is with the confidence of decades of experience I can say that to quote Alan Watts aloud is a sign of desperately needing to read another book.
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teddyh
9 months ago
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Is anything in that quote so wrong that it invalidates the larger point the quote is meant to illustrate?
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throwanem
9 months ago
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What am I meant to think the experience of providing IT support shares with that of the bodhisattva nature, such that quoting the ever tiresome Watts at paragraph length is meant to aid understanding of either? It's just a lot of self-aggrandizing humblebragging nonsense, "look whose name I drop and you don't." Good grief, in this millennium having had an encounter with Watts doesn't even really qualify anyone as being familiar with the literature.

If one means to say it's not people's fault that computers suck to use and they shouldn't be blamed for exhibiting some emotional dismay when forced to do so anyway, then one may say so clearly and concisely, and without insisting on oneself even by implication.

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teddyh
9 months ago
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Your reading comprehension seems to be lacking. Maybe you should read more books?

What I meant to convey, seven years ago, when writing that comment making the analogy to Zen Buddhism (as described by Alan Watts at least) was that there are those who come to understand technology and immediately go off and despise and belittle all the people who don’t understand it. There are also those who come to understand technology and can explain the relevant parts to those who don’t understand it, and help them handle technology to help them in their lives, without belittling them or even secretly/silently looking down on or feeling superior to them in any way. This dichotomy seemed to me to be very similar to what Alan Watts once described about Zen Buddhism.

But sure, you keep berating people for daring to quote something by someone so plebeian as Alan Watts, in a seven year old comment. I’m sure it will help you get along with people.

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throwanem
9 months ago
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You're right. Seven years is a long time. I'm not the one who brought it up. Why do you keep using forty words where two or three would serve?
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teddyh
9 months ago
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I have no idea what you are talking about. I certainly did not bring up Alan Watts again; you did. It also takes a lot of words to convey my thoughts accurately to someone who seems bent on misunderstanding them.
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throwanem
9 months ago
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I restated them yesterday in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44757634, assuming at the time that if you found any error there you would say so. Here's another chance to explain where I've actually failed to grasp your thesis, rather than that I'm pointing out you have overdressed a triviality with pretentious overcomplication.

But it's less interesting to me that you brought up Alan Watts seven years ago than that you did so again yesterday. What do you need from him? Why bring him up if you don't want to talk about him? Or is it that no one is allowed to have an opinion that contradicts yours, including when that involves looking askance at needless reference to dead prophets?

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teddyh
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> you have overdressed a triviality with pretentious overcomplication.

Well, possibly. What is interesting and subtle to some is obvious and clichéd to others. Much like how technology is mysterious and ineffable to some, but obvious and plain to others.

> But it's less interesting to me that you brought up Alan Watts seven years ago than that you did so again yesterday. What do you need from him? Why bring him up if you don't want to talk about him?

Now you’re being delusory. You brough up Alan Watts again, after I quoted him seven years ago. I simply responded to you.

> Or is it that no one is allowed to have an opinion that contradicts yours, including when that involves looking askance at needless reference to dead prophets?

I think that, outside purely literary criticism, criticizing a “needless” reference is useless unless the reference itself is incorrect in a way which invalidates the point which the reference is meant to illuminate.

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throwanem
9 months ago
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> You [brought] up Alan Watts again

I just checked again, and it does look like you posted [1] the relevant links. Are you seeing something different? My experience has been that people who use apps or scripts which purport to "improve" on HN's interface do sometimes run into such bugs.

I bring it up because I feel like if we're not working from similar sets of facts, that would be a reasonable explanation for what otherwise is seeming very much like you doing everything you possibly can to avoid acknowledging I called bullshit, on the naked appeal to authority to which you resorted, in order to try to lend your words a weight you lack the ability to give them yourself.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44753964

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teddyh
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Three days ago, I did post the link to an seven-year-old post of mine, which in turn contained two links to other old posts of mine (ten and seven years old, respectively), where only the second of those linked posts contained a quote from Alan Watts. I do not count this as “bringing up” Alan Watts again three days ago.

Especially since I certainly did not use the quote of Alan Watts as a “naked appeal to authority”. Alan Watts does not describe anything in my point directly, and I do not, in the seven year old post, use the quote as an authoritative argument. It was merely an analogy. I claimed no knowledge of whether what Alan Watts describes is true or not. I used his description to explain what I thought was a similar phenomena to his description, nothing more.

> you doing everything you possibly can to avoid acknowledging I called bullshit, on the naked appeal to authority to which you resorted, in order to try to lend your words a weight you lack the ability to give them yourself.

I think you’re coming dangerously close, if not past, the forum guidelines, here. Please argue the point, not the person. I have asked you, repeatedly, why the Alan Watts quote is wrong, and why this fact would invalidate the point I was making. I even restated my point without referring to Alan Watts at all, to allow you to criticize it directly. But you have ignored all this, and your entire parent comment is instead about me, not about any point I was making, or even any point you are trying to make. Your entire argument seems to lack any point or counterpoint, and is instead only attacking me, personally.

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throwanem
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> I do not count this as “bringing up” Alan Watts again three days ago.

So I see.

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knowitnone2
9 months ago
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this is a you problem. Worked in IT over 20 years, never been angry. Perhaps you should change careers.
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Gigachad
9 months ago
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Twitter and facebook are far more effective for that.
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0xEF
9 months ago
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I think we can just kinda blanket-statement this and say all social media induces anger, yeah?
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Gigachad
9 months ago
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All of them can but I don't think they are equal. Back before I deleted twitter about a year ago, no matter what I did, how many accounts I blocked, I'd get a feed of AI generated ragebait. Meanwhile TikTok and Youtube seem to respect my preferences more. There is ragebait on those platforms but it isn't shown to me. Facebook just seems to be entirely Boomers and Gen Xers angry at the news.

Reddit has historically respected your subscriptions but it does look like they are drifting away and making the home page just whatever they want to show you.

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I'm actually making this: https://www.feelapp.io
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muzani
9 months ago
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What's a good subreddit for crying? All I get is ragebait and recycled punchlines
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gadders
9 months ago
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I've made plenty of websites that made my boss cry.
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gadders
9 months ago
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Also you should reformat it like the "Why don't men cry?" [1] meme and have the video in the bottom left square.

[1] https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/436274023/men-dont-cry

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jart
9 months ago
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I was like this website isn't going to make me cry.

Then it shoves a knife through my heart with a montage of that dog movie. Well done.

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I love getting comments like this
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2112syrinx
9 months ago
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Hitachi story made me cry. Having my best friend here right now (Yorkshire), working with me, is especially hard to watch.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I don't think I have ever cried harder than the movie Hachiko
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supportengineer
9 months ago
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Driving to work is sufficient for my daily cry.
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kp25
9 months ago
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First video was about Hachiko and it made me cry. Bookmarked, will revisit in a week. Thank you for making this.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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That one hits hard. Thanks for visiting and crying.
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thisOtterBeGood
9 months ago
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Marley and me, just did it for me.. I don't think I've ever cried like this since I was a kid.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I love to hear that. Hope it helped you feel an emotional release after all these years.
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dtj1123
9 months ago
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I watched this with my girlfriend. I can confirm that your domain name is completely accurate.
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Alifatisk
9 months ago
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Would be nice if I could hold and download the videon on the phone to share it
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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You should be able to share the vimeo links
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Alifatisk
9 months ago
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My friends are lazy as hell, they rarely click on links. It's like a burden for them.
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JohnTheSealion
9 months ago
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The amount of javascript I had to allow made me cry. Unfortunately browsing with No-Script seems to block much of the functionality. But otherwise a cool project!
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ThrowawayTestr
9 months ago
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You can turn off such things for specific sites.
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ninetyninenine
9 months ago
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Then that would defeat the purpose of the site. I have to cry.
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vasiliys
9 months ago
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Looking at eyeball stuff like [these surgery videos][1] gets me every time.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK7qSjp3kvZqH6muR6Oa3...

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encom
9 months ago
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I haven't felt anything in years. I am dead inside.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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You're who I made the site for. Keep trying!
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bravesoul2
9 months ago
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What you made a portfolio tracker for my stocks?
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account-5
9 months ago
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It'll not be long before the UK gov add crying to the online safety bill, so enjoy this while you can, people of the UK.
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callamdelaney
9 months ago
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You got a license for that free speech there gov?
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_heimdall
9 months ago
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Be careful, I'd hate for your comment to misconstrued as one talking poorly of the government or government officials.
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siva7
9 months ago
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Thanks, but for that i have plenty of at work.
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pranberry06
9 months ago
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Damn, I had no idea Richard Gere was Japanese
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sdotdev
9 months ago
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although I didnt cry the video I watched opened my eyes and just made me feel happy which is cool
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I'll take it!
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predkambrij
9 months ago
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I like it. Thank you for showing.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Thanks for crying
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hinkley
9 months ago
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Is it just the first ten minutes of Up?
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Yes
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lazyasciiart
9 months ago
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Oooohhhh too soon.
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karaterobot
9 months ago
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Does what it says on the label.
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Teknomadix
9 months ago
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I clicked. I didn't cry.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Click again
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shazbotter
9 months ago
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I tried five times. I cry at lots of media, I'm no stoic. I just find different things cry-worthy than the majority of others I think.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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What usually makes you cry?
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countfeng
9 months ago
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I actually prefer to laugh
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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You can do both! I actually find that when I let myself cry more, it expands my capacity for more joy and laughter.
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xarope
9 months ago
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what website? BTW who the heck is chopping onions next to me?
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gus_massa
9 months ago
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Can I "upvote" / "downvote" the videos? I got "unlucky" and the two I saw didn't made me cry.
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markdown
9 months ago
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Yeah they showed me ET, which I first saw at a very young age. While it might have been a tearjerker for some, it was one of the first horror movies I watched and just watching the clip was a trigger. What kind of sick bastard designs a horrifying alien instead of a cutesy one for a kids movie?
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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You can answer the questionnaire after the video that asks you if it made you cry or not.
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supportengineer
9 months ago
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That is straight out of Severance

"Please enjoy each cry equally"

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I kinda love this comparison (even though I'm not trying to create emotional dystopia)
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voxelghost
9 months ago
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whatcha gonna do about it, cry?
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ranger_danger
9 months ago
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how is this legal due to copyright issues?
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lawlessone
9 months ago
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[flagged]
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thebeardisred
9 months ago
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woof. Two deeply moving clips back to back.
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b0afc375b5
9 months ago
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Alternatively, you can watch one episode of Violet Evergarden once a week.
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Jach
9 months ago
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Ep 10 has reliably gotten the tears going 3 out of the 3 times I've seen it from 2019 on, but if I watched it any more frequently, nah. I find this site distasteful.
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brightnessjyjsh
9 months ago
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I don't get it, is the design made to make you cry?
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xg15
9 months ago
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> Studies show crying can relieve stress for a week.

Correlation, causation, etc?

I.e. I can easily imagine that, if something is seriously weighting on your mind, opening up about it and even crying would reduce stress.

It might even be the other way: That once people get a moment to de-stress and get a chance to mentally process some devastating event, they will cry.

I find it much harder to believe that just crying about some random, unrelated thing will magically make you more relaxed.

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Emotions aren't so black and white and I think both can be true. Sometimes letting yourself feel and release your emotions, even with something unrelated, opens up your capacity to confront something. The site is based on scientific and psychological research. There are plenty of studies but here is one if you want to check it out: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/benefits-of-a-good-cry-crying...
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xg15
9 months ago
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Thanks, will do.
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shishqa
9 months ago
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Seems that website is hosted on cloudflare and doesn't open in Russia, which blocks all cloudflare traffic. This makes me cry, thanks! App works 100%
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fredoliveira
9 months ago
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Very thoughtful of you to have written a comment that makes me laugh as a response to a website that made me cry.
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MrGilbert
9 months ago
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I appreciate this level of emotionality on HN once in a while.
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KolibriFly
9 months ago
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Accidental therapy at its finest
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Mission accomplished
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ochronus
9 months ago
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Mission failed successfully
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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It still made him cry even though not the way intended
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andrewyazura
9 months ago
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the fact that it doesn't open in russia makes me happy, to be honest
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rcbdev
9 months ago
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Yes, of course. Russians are, in fact, not people and do not deserve to view Western sites, media or actually any web service hosted by Western nations.

What kind of a take is this? If you strategically block an entire nation from viewing our sites and media, you're handing the state-run media there more power.

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reassess_blind
9 months ago
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FYI Russian ISPs are blocking Cloudflare, Cloudflare isn’t blocking Russia.
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om8
9 months ago
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I believe he knows
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isaacremuant
9 months ago
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Xenophobia is good because our NATO/US overlords which don't engage in propaganda tell us to hate our enemies. Then in X years they stop being our enemies and we point our irrational hate to someone else. It's also useful because you can label any dissenter as "pro Russian".

The McCarthy strategy/red scare is very effective.

We're the good guys though. Remember that. If we admit any wrongdoing ever, that's just history and now we are good. Or else.

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dmos62
9 months ago
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> What kind of a take is this?

The take of the Russian government?

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om8
9 months ago
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I'm currently in Russia trying to get a US visa for my CS PhD. Because I do CS, I got into a thing called administrative processing. For 95% of people, it takes days -- weeks, tops. Because of the colour of my passport, it has already lasted for 3 months. I know people who are waiting for 2 years to pass it.

Why do you think I shouldn't have access to this website in Russia?

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jesterson
9 months ago
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> the fact that it doesn't open in russia makes me happy, to be honest

Mind to explain why?

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skrebbel
9 months ago
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Standard "boo Russia, yay Ukraine" vibes + forgetting that Russian people are just regular people with regular-people hopes and fears.
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jesterson
9 months ago
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Yea, but I wonder how they try to justify (if those silly emotional bursts are justifiable) those statements.
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ramon156
9 months ago
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I don't think they think as far as "justifying" it. They just get their opinions from the internet
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skrebbel
9 months ago
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I think some people just support countries the way they support football clubs.
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esafak
9 months ago
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As if the news and state of the planet weren't enough.
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typeofhuman
9 months ago
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The planet is stateless.
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teaearlgraycold
9 months ago
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Then why does it keep mutating?
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b3lvedere
9 months ago
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Something something entropy
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layer8
9 months ago
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Is that what they mean by cryotherapy? ;)

Anyway, this seems to be a covert ad for https://www.feelapp.io/.

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muzani
9 months ago
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It's how funnels should work. Show a sample and if people want more, they can go to https://www.feelapp.io/

Sadly, they have a waitlist, so I'll just come by on the next funnel.

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Join the waitlist! We're launching soon I promise
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dottjt
9 months ago
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How do I know your comment isn't a covert ad for https://www.feelapp.io/.
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hinkley
9 months ago
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How do I know yours isn’t?

I’m not linking it, therefore no covert ads here.

Unless that’s what I want you to think.

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dottjt
9 months ago
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My comment was actually intended as a literal ad, therefore my comment was not a covert ad for https://www.feelapp.io/.
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cookiengineer
9 months ago
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Weirdos watch windows, faking evidence, exposing lizardmen and pyramids, protecting illuminati’s operatives.

(Sorry could not resist)

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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It's not a covert ad, that's just my new project
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layer8
9 months ago
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It’s not clear why the page would link to the app if it isn’t to promote the app.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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I mean the projects are connected. If you enjoyed cryonceaweek.com you will probably like https://www.feelapp.io. I guess it could be considered a funnel promotion but it's more me just trying to share a new project with people who use the previous one. It didn't always link to the app - I added that later after we launched the app page and waitlist.
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b3lvedere
9 months ago
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"Furiko (Pendulum), a Japanese short film about the passing of time."

Well that was fun.. :)

Didn't make me cry, but came close. I don't know if i feel stress relieved. It made me feel even more aware of my own mortality and mistakes i made/make in life. Don't feel particulary happy or relieved.

So i clicked again

"A scene from the movie Steel Magnolias (1989). A woman mourns the loss of her daughter. (6:44 min)"

Oh hell no..

Third and last attempt

"A scene from the movie Bambi (1942). Bambi mourns the loss of his mother. (02:47 min)"

You sure this is about stress relieving? :)

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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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The only way out is through
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b3lvedere
9 months ago
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Of course. Thank you for creating this.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Thanks for visiting
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anigbrowl
9 months ago
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This is bad. If you want some emotional art therapy, go actually watch something, whether it's something you already appreciate or something new that you are willing to try. Content poaching wrapped up as pseudoscientific wellness product is just exploitative.
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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It sounds like you need a good cry
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anigbrowl
9 months ago
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I'm not arguing against having a good cry, I'm arguing for doing so by actually watching a whole movie or listening to a whole song instead of a an extract, kinda like the difference between eating some fruit and taking a shot of high fructose corn syrup.
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johnnymaroney
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I'm actually a filmmaker and highly value full length feature films. I'm not arguing against watching whole movies. But there is also value in short films, short form videos, and even just watching specific scenes of a film at times. If it makes you feel something meaningful that's all that matters. There is room for all types of experiences, no matter the length. Emotions only last for around 90 seconds so sometimes that's all you need in the moment. If you want a deeper or longer experience by all means please watch a full movie, I am not trying to stop you or anyone from doing that.
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laincide
9 months ago
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Jesus Christ you must be not fun at parties
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udev4096
9 months ago
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OP is right. Short-form content for everything is dangerous and should be avoided. It serves no purpose
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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This is just scientifically false. Emotions only last for 90 seconds and short-form content can indeed be beneficial. Studies show even a two minute experience can break the cycle of negative rumination.
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udev4096
9 months ago
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Studies of what? Bunch of teenagers that are already hooked on short-form content, whose attention span is non-existent?
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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Look I get it. You hate social media and what it is doing to people's attention spans. I do too for the most part and I'm sure we agree on many things regarding this. But there is value in short form content. It's the type of content that matters, not the length. Short films, short stories, 2-3 minute songs, etc. These things can and do evoke meaningful emotional experiences. I actually made the site as an antidote to the doomscroll which many have found it helpful to be.
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throwanem
9 months ago
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You're arguing with a grifter, you know. Best case he's going to crib what you say to sound smart. Why help?
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johnnymaroney
9 months ago
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What exactly am I grifting
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ranger_danger
9 months ago
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As a rule, strong feelings about issues do not emerge from deep understanding.
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