New research finds that ivermectin could help control malaria transmission
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kacesensitive
17 hours ago
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Ivermectin has a surprisingly interesting origin, it was discovered in soil near a Japanese golf course and developed from a bacterium that kills parasites. It went on to treat diseases like river blindness and became widely used in both human and veterinary medicine. Despite all that, it’s definitely not some miracle drug or cure-all like some would have you believe. Though that didn’t stop my grandpa from stockpiling it after watching too many Fox News ads.
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gus_massa
17 hours ago
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> it’s definitely not some miracle drug or cure-all like some would have you believe

I agree. Anyway, there is a nice post about Ivermectin in 2020 by Derek Lowe (In the Pipeline) https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/what-s-ivermectin the most relevant quotes are:

> The drug is effective against a wide number of parasites and arthropods in general

> Its ion-channel mechanism of action against parasites has no application to viruses.

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cryptoegorophy
16 hours ago
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It would’ve been very nice to show early in Covid the scale size of parasites vs viruses. Calling it a horse dewormer created the opposite, conspiracy effect.
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sjsdaiuasgdia
16 hours ago
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"Well if it can kill that big ol' thing, surely it can absolutely destroy those microscopic bastards!"

A whole lot of people will ignore or rationalize away evidence that disagrees with what they have already decided is true.

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rolph
15 hours ago
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it really is gloomy to see one who now realizes how mistaken it is, and have to help them through the aftermath.
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bamboozled
17 hours ago
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Golf is awesome...I know that much for sure.
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Viliam1234
6 hours ago
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We all know that Ivermectin is a miracle cure, now we just need to find something it is a miracle cure for.
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amluto
16 hours ago
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> It has now been shown to reduce malaria transmission by killing the mosquitoes that feed on treated individuals.

That seems like it will interfere with careless randomized controlled trial design. If the drug kills mosquitos, it could easily do less well at preventing the user from getting infected by a mosquito, but it could potentially prevent an infected patient from spreading an infection via mosquito or even kill a mosquito that would otherwise subsequently spread an infection between two other people.

In any case, here’s a better article. It seems the authors are very much aware of this issue, and they randomized entire clusters of people:

https://www.science.org/content/article/well-known-drug-coul...

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Terretta
13 hours ago
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Ivermectin: much more than you wanted to know

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-y...

Spoiler: this finding fits

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vnchr
17 hours ago
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The discoverers of ivermectin shared a Nobel Prize in 2015 [0] with a discoverer of a novel malaria treatment. Interesting coincidence.

[0] https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-releas...

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stocksinsmocks
14 hours ago
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I wonder how many years it will take for the emotional response to the word “ivermectin” to subside so that every mention of it doesn’t erupt into a two minute hate. I worry that the unintended consequence of these marketing campaigns, whether well intentioned or not, is going to be a growing list of trigger words that send people into deep mental anguish. As there seems to be a new outrage every few months, I would think there has to be some kind of real damage that accumulates from a lifetime of this.
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aeonik
11 hours ago
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22.3 years is the standard amount of time before something tragic can become funny.

This standard may also apply here.

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latchkey
10 hours ago
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SouthPark got it wrong, it is only 36 days.

https://newrepublic.com/article/116425/science-humor-when-do...

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walterbell
17 hours ago
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https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/features/116436

> Four states -- Tennessee, Arkansas, Idaho, and Louisiana -- have passed OTC ivermectin laws

> [Nine] other states have bills moving through their legislatures

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zoklet-enjoyer
15 hours ago
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You can just go buy it at any farm supply store. Same thing with DMSO
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walterbell
15 hours ago
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State legislative processes have multiple functions.
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rolph
15 hours ago
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it doesnt stop you from being infected, it is administered, in such dosage as to make the blood toxic to mosquitoes.

the reduction of infection is by reduction of mosquito population.

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giardini
1 hour ago
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rolph says >the reduction of infection is by reduction of mosquito population.

There is a secondary effect: ivermectin eliminates parasites that are a burden on the body's immune and repair systems. With the parasite eliminated, resources the body used to hold the parasite at bay are now available to deal with other problems, e.g., viral or bacterial infections.

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jmclnx
15 hours ago
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Well something needs to be done about malaria. Since there is no hope in solving Climate Change, seems malaria and other disease are slowing heading north.

I remember reading some nasty mosquito diseases already landed in Florida and Southern Texas. And seems malaria use to be as far north as NH.

So, if work does not start soon, malaria could cover a decent area of the US. Of course we know the politicians will completely ignore this threat and some may even say it is no worse than the common cold. Just look at the progress on Climate Change, if decent work was done on that 30+ years ago, it would have solved lots of potential issues.

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OutOfHere
16 hours ago
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This paper seems misleading to me because ivermectin was dosed only once a month at about a standard dose. Based on the drug's pharmacology, there is no way in which it could maintain any effectiveness over a week.

If the paper is legitimate, then the effect could be better with weekly dosing and much better with twice-a-week dosing.

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