How Does Microwaving Grapes Create Plumes of Plasma?
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3 days ago
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asdfasvea
1 hour ago
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Everyone do yourselves a favor--go to a thrift store and buy a few microwaves. Find a field, string a hundred feet of extension cords from an outlet and start microwaving all the things your not suppose to.

My favorites: Ivory soap--bubbles outward; Grapes--see article; Incandescent lightbulb --lights up; Wine bottle--explodes, do this last

Also lots of things you think would be bad do nothing: spray paint can, soup can, silverware, cup of gas with aluminum foil in it.

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tejtm
42 minutes ago
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Hit the [empty] wine bottle with a propane torch till a spot is glowing red before you start nuking it ... room temp glass is an insulator, hot glass conducts!
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x______________
21 minutes ago
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Those AOL CD's or any useless DVD are good candidates to nuke with scintillating results!
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arjie
4 hours ago
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The PNAS article has more photos and videos https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1818350116

Looking online apparently this damages the magnetron, but no one has found out why precisely. There are some pop-culture explanations that the reflected energy overloads the magnetron and so on, but I don't think anyone has done the parallel what this team has done to actually say what happens to the magnetron.

The PI has a website https://www.aaronslepkov.com/research but nothing new about this stuff there. I'm curious.

We know now why the plasma forms. I hope they're able to explain why the magnetron breaks.

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gsf_emergency_6
2 hours ago
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Arcing?

How would one point camera at the magnetron and still keep it safe

https://old.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3ittew/what_is_...

(The plasma acts as a sort of antenna-- we maybe don't want 2 magnetrons pointing at each other :)

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ValiantFalstaff
1 hour ago
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Veritasium has a great video on this: https://youtu.be/wCrtk-pyP0I
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jameslk
2 hours ago
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> The key, it seems, is cramming the energy present in microwaves into a very tiny space—the point of contact between the objects in question. In your garden-variety microwave oven, microwaves have a wavelength of about 12.5 cm. But adjoining grapes (which are full of water that can absorb said microwaves) can concentrate the energy within into a region where the two spheres touch, which is no more than a couple millimeters wide. This creates a very strong, very condensed electric field at their interface—a pocket of ammo powerful enough to liberate negatively-charged electrons from, say, the salts naturally present in grapes and other fruits.

This is the answer from the article. Not much else is said about the “how” piece

This is the paper cited: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1818350116

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havaloc
6 hours ago
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I'd like to think that some day in the near to mid future microwaving grapes or other spheres will be a way to start a fusion reactor or similar.
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meatmanek
5 hours ago
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Maybe that's what the fuel pellets in The Expanse really are. https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Fuel_pellets
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mattbettinson
5 hours ago
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The what drive
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Dusseldorf
2 hours ago
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Predates that awful guy being so well known. Unfortunate but doesn't seem worth retconning.
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phendrenad2
4 hours ago
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What is this diddy blud doing
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dzohrob
3 hours ago
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pro tip: do not try this on a microwave you want to keep. if you are successful you will likely cause a fire in your microwave. (it is fun, though).
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teeray
2 hours ago
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Not to worry. In high school, my friend and I used the cafeteria microwave for this particular experiment. It was only a modest, baby fire… and some yelling from a teacher. Miraculously no detention. But science was done on that day.
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