Space Truckin' – The Nostromo (2012)
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by exvi
7 hours ago
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BLKNSLVR
3 hours ago
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Tangential: Alien(s) brought H.R. Giger to my attention, for which I shall ever be thankful. My parents visited Gruyères in Switzerland a couple of years ago, and whilst they didn't tour the museum[0] (his art isn't their thing) they did take a couple of photos of the sculptures outside for me.

I'll get there one day.

[0]: https://www.hrgigermuseum.com/en/

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e40
1 hour ago
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That website was really frustrating on iOS, had to close it before seeing much.
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ChrisGreenHeur
1 hour ago
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Swiss people can't ever grasp html
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omnicognate
1 hour ago
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HTML was invented in Switzerland, albeit by an Englishman.
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ChrisGreenHeur
55 minutes ago
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yes, that's the joke :)
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moffkalast
1 hour ago
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Giger art should only be enjoyed rendered on a CRT in a damp dark cave for that in-universe feel.
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dotancohen
4 minutes ago
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Actually Giger's sculptures are rather interesting. But I agree about the print and paint work. It's too deep in the uncanny valley - in a bad way.
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kakacik
1 hour ago
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His cafè just opposite the museum is also quite something, chairs and tables from spine-infested shapes.

And when in Gruyères then one should taste meringues double crème, or fondue in colder months.

And last but not least - its a region of Swiss pre-alps, mountains up to cca 2000m high, lovely hikes all around in picture-perfect nature and fields (government pays farmers to keep it looking nice) and even nearby very nice via ferrata on Moléson peak which I did 2 weeks ago, this time with some snow. It overlooks the castle and whole area from avove. That was interesting and intense experience while being alone on whole mountain.

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moffkalast
1 hour ago
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My dad took me there as a kid a long whole ago when Giger was still alive, it was really something. The bar is amazing and the museum is... oppressively dark in a very unique way, like anything Giger ever did I suppose.

There's several lifesize necronomicons/xenomorphs, some earlier and later variants, Sil and the skull train, a lot of art that was never used in Alien and sequels but some made it later into Prometheus.

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0_____0
3 hours ago
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With all the back and forth over the props, also with Ridley Scott scrapping loads of spaceship footage in order to reshoot everything after repainting the models, I get the impression that communication was quite bad in the production. I'm sure we've all encountered this in industry to some degree but having months of work tossed because it ain't look right must sting somewhat.
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throwaway173738
3 hours ago
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Sometimes you can’t predict what will work until you see what doesn’t. I’d say that if you’re really developing something new you should have that experience at least once of having something you’ve worked very hard on scrapped because it just isn’t right.
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Neil44
1 hour ago
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I was taken by how freely they spent months of man hours on things to go 'meh' and casually throw them away. Different world. Quite holistic with their production costs
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throwup238
1 hour ago
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Once production starts the costs for many roles are locked in and they work till it wraps, often due to union rules and contracts. Anyone working in parallel with the film crews just does whatever the director/producers prioritizes since they’re not getting sent home.

It's definitely a different world though because you’re not supposed to go under budget. If investors give you $100mil to make a movie, they want to maximize the return on that $100mil, so if you’re $5mil under budget, they want you to go and spend that money to make it even better (usually in post production now, but back then it was less of an option).

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virtualritz
1 hour ago
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There is is, Spielberg spelled wrong as "Speilberg" four (all) times in the article.

Does anyone know why Americans do this regularly, swapping i and e especially in words of German origin?

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ralfd
53 minutes ago
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Maybe because Anglos sometimes pronounce e like i and ei is more common in english spelling for a long vocal?

To be fair, German "ie" and "ei" is one of the few special rules which make no sense (or lost their sense in time). The 'e' in 'ie' is Dehnungs-e for elongation, just a notation that the i is longer pronounced (like Wiese, Biene). (Special rule: if ie is at the end of a word like familie (latin familia) often it is a diphtong and both vocals are pronounced).

"ei" is a bit stupid, because it is not pronounced "ei" but like "ai" or "ay" (eg Mayer).

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867-5309
1 hour ago
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perhaps due to ignorance for the mnemonic rhyme "i before e, except after c"
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stack_framer
3 hours ago
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I always loved how the Nostoromo looked futuristic, yet cramped and dirty. The narrow halls and small rooms reflect the minimalism you would expect from a greedy corporation that considers its crew expendable, while the clutter and disrepair reflect what you would expect from the apathetic, disgruntled employees.
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evo_9
6 hours ago
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I always loved Alien and Blade Runner because of this shared aesthetic. It gave the sense that the doomed ship Nostromo departed Blade Runner earth.
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ggm
4 hours ago
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Owners of Frank Lloyd Wright homes licked their lips with glee when Bladerunner fans made the bricks-and-mortar movie-famous.

How Deckerd can afford to live in one post economic meltdown is a bit unclear. And those whisky glasses are worth a mint now too.

"Enhance" indeed.

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sorokod
3 hours ago
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Many go off-world to create real estate opportunities?
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balamatom
1 hour ago
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>How Deckerd can afford to live in one post economic meltdown is a bit unclear.

He's part of a precarious minority of semi-technical functionaries, armed bureaucrats afforded generous promotions and great inner leeway amidst the post-meltdown order of things, in return for their unquestioning allegiance to the same

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gorfian_robot
4 hours ago
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people brush their teeth three times a day???
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BLKNSLVR
3 hours ago
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In space everyone can smell you scream
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4ndrewl
1 hour ago
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I thought the article was great, but I couldn't get that sentence out of my head!
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sho_hn
6 hours ago
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You know, I'm sort of frustrated that all the recent entries in the Alien franchise have been nostalgia bait. At this point I've seen those corridors so often I'm tired of them. A most unwelcome dilution.
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spankibalt
6 hours ago
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> At this point I've seen those corridors so often I'm tired of them.

Heh, I can't get enough of them; it's a great visual design template to work from. And visual consistency of properties within a diegetic timeframe has to be taken into account, even if the newer entries' writers' rooms could profit from better talent...

That said, Alien: Isolation is still the best modern infusion into that universe, and one of the best games in my lifetime.

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vkazanov
2 hours ago
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True, a brilliant and extraordinary game. We completed it with my kid a couple days ago, tons of fun.

A perfect replika of Alien the original movie and its retrofuturism.

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echelon
6 hours ago
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Cameron doubled down on the aesthetic in Aliens, he just changed the genre from horror to action. Both films were "peak 80s" (Alien was '79) and just ooze with what must be the absolute pinnacle of science fiction vibes.

If you haven't seen these two films, you need to fix that this week. It'll change your life.

Scott tried to expand the aesthetics with Prometheus and Covenant. I felt the films did a great job of refreshing the look and feel while remaining faithful to the 80's. Unfortunately, the writing was trite and Scott's directing is averaging .200 at bat these days.

Romulus was not bad, though certainly not a masterpiece. At least it was better written and had better character arcs than Scott's recent films.

I'd rather have the performance of this series than whatever Jurassic Park or Star Wars have become.

Predator, oddly enough, has strangely been improving if you don't count Shane Black's entry.

I'm happy they keep making these, and I hope the writers and directors at the reigns keep experimenting rather than conforming to "safe" or "understandable by a general audience".

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VectorLock
1 hour ago
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Have you watched Alien: Earth?
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sho_hn
1 hour ago
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Yes, that and Romulus is what I was thinking of. Alien Earth has that whole fanfic-style flashback episode.
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Animats
3 hours ago
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This look all comes from Silent Running (1972).
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iancmceachern
5 hours ago
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Also see, but not to be confused with, Space Truckers:

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0120199/

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kazinator
3 hours ago
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What a weird coincidence; I made a "Space Truckin'" comment under a YouTube vid less than 24 hours ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWDsSDNpS8c&lc=UgyEogAS5P_Hm...

Double coincidence: it was I who posted this ten years ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9254748

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