AdBlock and Signal are for terrorists, according to French govt (2023) [video]
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Fnoord
3 hours ago
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FBI recommends using an ad blocker (2022) (ic3.gov) posted Sept 8, 2024, 230 comments [1]

Another fun one: Signal is the No. 1 downloaded app in the Netherlands. But why? | TechCrunch, from March 2 2025

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41483581

[2] https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/1j38sgw/signal_is_t...

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ghssds
3 hours ago
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yorwba
1 hour ago
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anigbrowl
46 minutes ago
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I don't find any of this persuasive because nowhere does it articulate who or how the defendants came to be accused of anything in the first place. I can not make my mind about how to feel when the context is removed, even if I think the state's argument is entirely specious.
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yorwba
28 minutes ago
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I think La Quadrature du Net don't consider it relevant whether the accused are guilty or not; they don't want encrypted communication to ever be included in the evidence against someone.

I agree that that's a bit too much binary thinking, and a collection of separate actions that would be legal on their own can nonetheless add up to evidence of a crime when taken together.

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ghssds
25 minutes ago
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anigbrowl
2 minutes ago
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[delayed]
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PunchyHamster
2 hours ago
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that would make DRMed games qualify under their definition of terrorism, because it's also using encryption and obfuscation
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godelski
1 hour ago
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I wonder what the "s" stands for in https...
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ptek
3 hours ago
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Was contracted to a New Zealand government department and all the Edge browsers had AdBlock installed by default. I guess the New Zealand government that I worked for is a terrorist organisation. The department that I worked for did take other peoples money though. (Won't give any more information than that).
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broodbucket
2 hours ago
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They're terrorists for not having uBlock Origin instead
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BLKNSLVR
4 hours ago
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I'm a 3x terrorist because I also use GrapheneOS.

Seems a modern problem is the significant watering down of what "terrorist" means. If blocking ads has become three measure of a terrorist:

If everyone's a terrorist... No one is.

The word no longer has any meaning. Eventually there will be two labels to apply to everyone: "corporate sheep" and "terrorist".

In which case I will always strive towards terrorist.

WTF is going on with France?

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marcus_holmes
2 hours ago
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Not only France. As was always predicted to happen, governments are finding the allure of classifying undesirable organisations as terrorists too hard to resist. The UK with Palestine Action, the USA with the Muslim Brotherhood [0].

We need to repeal the War Against Terror acts that allow this to happen.

[0] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/11/desi...

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thatguy0900
1 hour ago
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The US has even moved on to "narcoterrorists", you can just blow those ones up whenever
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dolmen
23 minutes ago
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And France is following that path too.
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broodbucket
2 hours ago
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GrapheneOS is moving their servers out of France if you weren't aware
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codetiger
4 hours ago
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Ah, just when I thought I was saving the world with these tools.
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necheffa
3 hours ago
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One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
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aitchnyu
1 hour ago
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If we cannot decide, we call them guerrillas - Ellie (fictional)/Carl Sagan
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BLKNSLVR
56 minutes ago
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I wonder what danger there is in over-classifying terrorism.

If someone, as a purely theoretical example, feels as if they fall under various 'modern' classifications of terrorist, then it could break down certain walls of reasoning preventing them from participating in activities that would fall under the 'historic' classification of terrorist.

What I'm saying is: Any government that's over-using the term is (potentially) actively participating in the radicalisation of a portion of their constituency.

And that is a dead-fucking-wrong approach; 180 degrees away from the correct heading. Gross negligence.

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anonym29
3 hours ago
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Increasingly seems like the French government are the real terrorists.
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theoldgreybeard
4 hours ago
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Guess I’m a terrorist.
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senectus1
2 hours ago
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we all are, anyone not in goverment is a terrorist.
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