China's BEV Trucks and the End of Diesel's Dominance
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2 hours ago
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| cleantechnica.com
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jmward01
1 hour ago
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Oh, look, it's another article about china dominating in electrification and reaping the rewards of intelligent investment.
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jmward01
1 hour ago
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Seems like there is a lot of dislike of this comment but not a lot of discussion about. Is it not true that china is dominating here? Or that this is becoming the norm? Isn't the instant negative reaction to this comment the exact problem? Maybe if we decided to get better instead of get mad we would see articles about the west dominating more often.
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cwillu
37 minutes ago
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Comments often follow a u-curve, where immediate downvotes are countered after a few minutes. I suspect the cause is at least in part people directly downvoting from the https://news.ycombinator.com/newcomments page
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themafia
45 minutes ago
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> intelligent investment

I would not call highly disposable and cheap heavy duty vehicles an "intelligent investment." It's headline chasing and there's always very little tying their touted efforts to any actual improvements in the environment our economic outcomes.

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Mistletoe
56 minutes ago
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It’s apparent that the USA is falling deeply behind on all of these things. I look at the rest of my life now as the final days in Babylon and try to still enjoy going down in the sinking ship. I vote to stop it, but my votes haven’t mattered in a long time. It’s important to still do them anyway.
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chii
19 minutes ago
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> my votes haven’t mattered in a long time

you vote mattered. It's just that there are more people who didn't vote the way you wanted them. But that's OK, because this is how it is supposed to work.

At least, in theory.

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monero-xmr
13 minutes ago
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The USSR was considered by many prominent intellectuals a valid counterpoint to the Western capitalist structure, up until the moment it collapsed, and then it wasn't true socialism. Some humbleness should be in order when considering imperfect knowledge
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thenthenthen
1 hour ago
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It is absolutely magnificent to see a electric truck full of sand driving through the street, here is a (sorry, verry bad quality) video of a BYD one I caught: https://youtube.com/shorts/B0akomAQgkM?si=B1JEkKrTk6w7q5Bq
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ehnto
52 minutes ago
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There are some electric trucks driving around Australian cities already as well.

Though I love the sound of a straight cut gear, I suspect they'll want to work on quieting that drivetrain a bit. Thankfully there is a lot of prior art.

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ludamn
52 minutes ago
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Thanks for sharing, is that engine sound coming from the truck?
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analog31
23 minutes ago
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Sounds like the person taking the video is on an electric bike.
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pabs3
20 minutes ago
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I think its the truck, near the end the bike peels off to the left and you can hear the sound fading off to the right.
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hn_throwaway_99
18 minutes ago
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The text in teeny font under the headline picture is "ChatGPT generated. Chinese electric truck production lines expanding rapidly in 2024 and 2025."

So, in other words, the leading image is a lie. When people say false things that purport to be true in text we call it lying or fraud. I don't understand why when they do it with an image it's not the same thing. Putting teeny, easily missed font that says "ChatGPT generated" doesn't make it OK. I might feel less strongly if the author put a disclaimer, in larger font, that said (more accurately IMO), "The above image is fake."

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SoftTalker
1 hour ago
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Well sure when you can skip all the safety standards they are cheap. These trucks would not be considered roadworthy in the USA or Europe.
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SapporoChris
41 minutes ago
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From the article, "China’s low price electric trucks do not arrive as finished products for Europe or North America. They need work." and the article goes on to describe what the author considered and an estimate of the cost.
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cwillu
35 minutes ago
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“The gap between a domestic Chinese tractor and a European or North American long haul tractor is roughly €80,000 to €120,000 once all mechanical, safety and comfort systems are brought to the required levels per my estimate.”
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blovescoffee
59 minutes ago
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What makes you think/say they’ve skipped safety standards?
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