“End-to-end encrypted email for the mesh networking age”
Perhaps wish we weren’t headed for such an age but glad Yggmail is here for it!
Yes I might be wrong but my understanding is there is no point in creating another system where messages hop from one peer to the other like Meshtastic or Reticulum (what make sense for their use case).
Let's say users have their "email server" running on both on there mobile phone and a home server and in sync. We can expect 2 of the 4 servers will be online at the same time to send the message. I personally like those odds, Internet is pretty reliable in our days.
I believe we have spent too long trying to solve very hard trilema in messaging, trying to have it all: confidentiality, anonymity and uncensorability ... and reliability ... and ease of use. The result is in practice most people use GMail, Outlook and Whatsapp.
Yggdrasil is fantastic, it goes back some original ideas of the Internet we have almost forgotten, and in practice solves a lot of problem we have been dealing with for too long.
ssb's been broken for around five years, but now that it's working again it'd be fun try this experiment again.
2026 could be the year mesh networks finally take off!
Let's talk more on a more appropriate channel. Are you on bsky? we're having a small discussion there about "bringing open source projects back from the dead with AI" right now.
DeltaChat/ArcaneChat Integration
DeltaChat and ArcaneChat are perfect companions for Tyr. These are messengers that use email protocols but provide modern chat interfaces. When you configure DeltaChat/ArcaneChat to use Tyr's local server:
1. DeltaChat/ArcaneChat sends messages via SMTP to Tyr
2. Tyr wraps them in Yggmail protocol and sends through Yggdrasil
3. The recipient's Tyr receives the message via Yggdrasil
4. Their DeltaChat/ArcaneChat fetches it via IMAP from their local Tyr
5. All this happens peer-to-peer, with no central servers
Such a setup could be useful if you find people around you using Tyr and you're losing messages because your phone kills the app, though a PoC like this probably won't have much of a network effect.
I had that from some magazine included cd ; my father thought I had completely messed up the family PC.