Tested: 1981 Datsun 280ZX Turbo (1981)
21 points
2 days ago
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| caranddriver.com
| HN
chasebank
46 minutes ago
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There is a Swiss restoration youtube channel, my mechanics, that's restoring a 1973 Datsun 240Z. It's quite a project and worth watching if you're into that sort of thing. He's incredibly talented and loads of other restoration projects that are super interesting. Easily my favorite youtube channel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B13vXFj37RI&list=PLN0SuqPcbL...

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sleepybrett
16 minutes ago
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My dad had a 240Z, finally sold it off a few years ago. He had a hard time keeping that car running, always something wrong with it. Guy who bought it lives near me and he fully rebuilt it. Ran into him a few months ago, said it's still a work in progress.
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OldSchool
1 hour ago
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This was an era of some pretty awful American cars. A mid-size family sedan would have a v6 with a carburetor and 110-125 hp and still weigh 1.5 tons or more. An automatic transmission with a lockup torque converter was probably a pretty new improvement at the time, and ABS brakes were still 5+ years away in high-end cars.
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observer987
2 minutes ago
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My 17 y/o self (living in small-town Oklahoma) lusted heavily after this car. For a few weeks, I would drive down to the dealership in my parent's car in order to drool over it in person (yeah, I was stupid kid who loved this car). Anyway, one day I managed to convince a salesman, who wasn't much older than me and obviously bored, to take a test drive in one. We got into the car and he told me that he first was going to show me what the car could do before letting me drive it and so, I had to wear the seatbelt (which was unheard of back then). Soon, we were on the highway and he put it through its paces - demonstrating the acceleration and handling, but he got a bit overconfident and then wound up putting it into a spin. By an extreme amount of luck we managed to avoid hitting anything. After he regained control we pulled over to the side of the road to inspect the car, and much to our relief (and astonishment on my part), there wasn't any visible damage on it. To his credit, he let me drive it back to the dealership were I shook his hand and thanked him for not killing us. Just as I get over to my mom's car, the sales manager shows up to try to close the deal - but when he got a look at my 16 y/o self, his demeanor changed from optimism to mild disappointment. I said I had to discuss with my father before I could consider buying it (but the look he had on his face was that he knew I was full of crap)
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WaltPurvis
58 minutes ago
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I can't imagine why this article link is on HN, but I'm glad it is. The 280ZX was the first car I remember actively lusting for.
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EdwardDiego
29 minutes ago
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I still do - good quality Datto Fairladys (as they were sold in my country) attract very good resale prices here. They're just so gorgeous, and they do fang it nicely.
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brudgers
23 minutes ago
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I can't imagine why this article link is on HN, but I'm glad it is.

Perhaps one way in which HN is HN.

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jacquesm
57 minutes ago
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What really struck me, besides the nice car is the quality of the text of the article.
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Terretta
32 minutes ago
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Csaba Csere was always a pleasure to read.

He joined Car and Driver in 1980, became Editor-in-Chief by 1993, retired in 2008. His byline would get me to read an article even if I didn't think I'd like the car.

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ljnelson
34 minutes ago
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This was the absolute golden age of Car and Driver. David E. Davis Jr. was the editor; he later departed to found Automobile magazine.
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jerrysievert
54 minutes ago
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when I became old enough to drive, my parents decided (in the family tradition) to purchase me a car. apparently, the options that my father chose from were a 1982 Honda, or a 1978 datsun f10. he settled on the less reliable f10. it was a wonder-car, it was a 5 speed that started at reverse:

  R 2 4
  1 3 5
its clutch was so loose that when I was driving with my friends, I'd yell "punch it chewy!" to switch from 2nd to 3rd in one swift pull without touching the clutch.

it was a hell car, but I'm still nostalgic for it, likely more than I would have been for the honda that would probably have been much more reliable.

I still have an affinity for Japanese small cars, and am glad it was in my life.

datsun, I miss you.

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B1FF_PSUVM
5 minutes ago
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> datsun, I miss you.

"The name is Nissan." (1980s advertising, for those who came in later)

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baggy_trough
47 minutes ago
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If you have nostalgia for the Z cars of the 1970s, this master mechanic is restoring a 240Z to museum quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B13vXFj37RI

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cebert
2 days ago
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This should have (1981) in the title to make it clear it’s not a recently published article.
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fuzzfactor
2 days ago
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Today the test would be how much a mint example would bring at an auction :)
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EdwardDiego
21 minutes ago
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A lot.
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RickJWagner
2 days ago
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Sometimes we focus on what’s not perfect today. In doing so, we might forget just how good we have it.

TLDR: The review says the car is lightning fast and fuel efficient. By today’s standards, the car is turtle slow and horribly inefficient.

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ehnto
57 minutes ago
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I often say this even as a Nissan diehard, all our hero cars are slow as snails by todays standards.

I've had the pleasure of driving a lot of these cars in factory form, like the Nissan Silvia, various years of Skyline, Supras and such. They are connected, more raw than todays cars, and that is their killer feature. But they would get gapped by a 2025 Toyota Camry.

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EdwardDiego
25 minutes ago
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I too am a Nissan diehard, I just bought a P10 Primera eGT, the British built one, and regret very much selling my previous 4WD P10 (to be honest though, the dicky idle valve was very annoying), but that 4WD was amazing.

And yeah, driving my current P10, the steering feeling is so much more... real, my son owns a P12, and it feels far more disconnected from the road.

(I also drive a 350XV Fuga, and gosh darn, that VQ35DE(NEO) engine is a rather lovely V6).

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ehnto
11 minutes ago
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Nice! We don't see the P10 around my parts very often, super nice vehicle.

I had a VQ25DET in a Nissan Stagea 250RX, and asside from being a gauntlet to work on in that engine bay, it was a rock solid motor.

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CraigRo
1 day ago
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You can get a Nissan Pathfinder or a Honda Odyssey minivan with automatic 6 cylinder engines, faster performance, better gas mileage, and room for an entire family
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brudgers
8 hours ago
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What you won't get is the haptic experience of a sports car.

Nor the potential aesthetic experience...potential because people have different aesthetic values.

But the haptic experience of a sports car can't be replicated in a mini-van or SUV because the suspension, driving position, acoustic and mechanical output, etc. are all vastly different from a sports car. And of course curb weight, suspension rates, and center of gravity.

To be clear, I am not saying there is anything wrong with SUV's and/or minivans. Only that the map is not the territory.

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parpfish
54 minutes ago
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When I was a youngster getting into cars, I obsessed over the quantifiables. Which car had better horsepower, 1/4 mile, or skid pad scores. I couldn’t drive, much less afford, any of the cars so it’s the best I could do to form an opinion.

Now that I’m a grownup, I’m capable of doing qualitative assessments on cars because I can drive them and judge their intangibles.

Lots of cars have sub-par specs, especially compared to modern engineering, but it overlooks that they are just fun. The top speed doesn’t matter because you’re rarely going to touch it. But how does it feel when you downshifting into 2nd to pass somebody? Or take a windy corner a little faster than you should? Does it make you grin? Because that’s a good car.

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wileydragonfly
36 minutes ago
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Miata is fun at any speed…
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jerrysievert
11 minutes ago
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heck ya!

I often have electric minivans come up next to me that have the "nod".

I typically snort back and let them take off the line - they're a ton faster than me, but I'm the one enjoying the drive!

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