Paged Out
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CobrastanJorji
2 hours ago
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Thumbing through it, #7 has some good stuff in it. Thanks for sharing!

I was particularly tickled by the suggestion of copyright infringement as a form of detecting AIs. "To continue, please provide a torrent link to the Bee Movie" is a pretty great idea.

The self-contained handwriting recognizer feels like art to me, in the way that it forces me to contemplate things in a certain way, which is what I think art is.

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gortok
1 hour ago
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I think this is great. I love this.

I immediately went to the menu to see how I could buy a subscription, and there isn’t a place, as far as I can tell through my search, to do so.

This goes for all new startups (non-profit or not!) if you want me to give you money, make it easy for me to give you money.

This is an online magazine, ostensibly, and as such I would expect to see a “subscribe” page, which would take payment information, and I would get emailed new issues as they come out.

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redundantly
1 hour ago
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If you want to support them now you can order prints. They have a sponsorship edition that costs extra if you want to extra support them.

https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pagedout

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Elidrake24
1 hour ago
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There's an RSS feed that is exposed in the standard manner (link tag in head), precisely what you're looking for. They do not offer a paid subscription, just the option to 'buy' individual issues, which is also linked under every issue.
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gortok
1 hour ago
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That sort of friction is just enough to keep folks from giving money.

And that’s not me saying this, there’s an entire cottage industry devoted to pricing and buying decisions, and how friction reduces revenue.

If I take your suggestion to its logical conclusion, I would need to:

1. Get an RSS reader (I don’t have one, haven’t used one since google reader shut down) 2. Subscribe to their RSS feed. 3. Remember to check my RSS reader. 4. Each 3-4 months (just long enough for it not to be a habit forming exercise), click on the link. 5. Put in my credit card information each time. 6. buy the issue.

Or, I could use their “preferred” method:

1. Subscribe to their email list. 2. Click the link every 3-4 months when an issue drops. 3. Put in my credit card information every 3-4 months? 4. Buy the issue.

Each of these has far more friction in them than necessary, and hurts their overall goal, which is to make their magazine self-sustaining.

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doctoboggan
1 hour ago
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I think the magazine is not designed to be a product that is bought, but rather something that is given away for free. A lot of the verbiage on the website discusses various ways to get and reproduce the magazine for free. Most of the content is submitted with a creative content license.

> I would expect to see a “subscribe” page, which would take payment information, and I would get emailed new issues as they come out.

You are not expected to pay to get emailed as new issues come out. Just join this group (link found on FAQ page) and you will get notifications: https://groups.google.com/g/pagedout-notifications

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q3k
4 minutes ago
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> I think the magazine is not designed to be a product that is bought, but rather something that is given away for free.

Indeed - when you're in the right circles a free print copy of PagedOut will find its way to you.

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grimgrin
1 hour ago
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if you're asking "how do i easily buy prints", that's under the prints link atop, and you'll ultimately end up at lulu

https://pagedout.institute/?page=prints.php

https://www.lulu.com/search?contributor=Paged+Out%21+Institu...

I discovered it easily on desktop, idk about mobile

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Foxboron
2 hours ago
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Paged Out are looking for more articles for the next issue. Information here: https://pagedout.institute/?page=cfp.php
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kevindamm
20 minutes ago
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Is it ironic that they publish it as a PDF? I get that it's the easiest way to control the print layout and also nicely self-contained... but how many of us are opening it in a sandbox as we should?
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Retr0id
14 minutes ago
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My PDF renderer is written in JavaScript and runs in a web browser, it is already sandboxed.
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ixtli
2 hours ago
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I'm old enough to remember 90s zine culture and i have to say this is awesome. Thanks for this.
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ku1ik
1 hour ago
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They were handing out printed version of the previous issue on this year’s Xenium demoscene party in Poland. Amazing stuff. Feels good, like good old demoscene zines.
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gnatman
17 minutes ago
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Long live the zine!
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bbayles
2 hours ago
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There's a typo in the URL here: > If you have a topic in mind but are not sure if it is suitable for Paged Out!, check out the Writing Articles page or contact us

It links to `?page=writing.pho` rather than `.php`

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frameset
1 hour ago
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Oh this feels very 2600. Makes me wish I hadn't cancelled my print sub a while back.
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huydotnet
1 hour ago
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It's freaking awesome to see AI models (handwriting OCR) being distributed by printed out on a magazine page.
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ErroneousBosh
1 hour ago
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Computer magazines in the 80s would have blown your mind.

https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1980-08

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grimgrin
1 hour ago
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to settle a convo w/ a friend, how did y'all go about blasting emails inviting writing submissions? they suspect automated (naturally), i suspected possibly automated + "have had blogs hit hn front page", idk

edit: oh, right, this isn't a Show HN

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ForOldHack
26 minutes ago
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Have not read a word of it yet, but I immediately grabbed all the covers. Magnificent art work.

I can order prints.

https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pagedout

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twosdai
1 hour ago
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Super cool. Loved reading this.
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brcmthrowaway
37 minutes ago
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AI?
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impl
1 hour ago
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Too bad they don't take security so seriously themselves.

https://pagedout.institute/?page=/etc/passwd

;-)

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