Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix
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shubhamjain
3 hours ago
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Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll through Instagram feeds. They have little taste, or any motivation to bring good stories out.

HBO might not be perfect, but at least its development process still begins with the story and the enthusiasm of the showrunner.

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karel-3d
3 hours ago
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I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount.

I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.

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Flatcircle
2 hours ago
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Anyone that thinks Netflix buying WB would be better than the Ellisons knows nothing about the media business. Look at what James Cameron said about it last week, everyone prefers the Ellisons over Netflix because Netflix actively wants to kill the theatrical and physical media businesses
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karel-3d
1 hour ago
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"they are evil but at least they are less into streaming." I don't know.
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throwaway48476
1 hour ago
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With tiktok, they're now in streaming.
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Raztuf
2 hours ago
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Mainstream physical media is already dead.
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VBprogrammer
58 minutes ago
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I wonder how much affect this has had in the Christmas trade for the entertainment industry. Back in the early 2000s it was common to buy a comedy DVD or a TV series for a family member or friend.

Now people who own DVD / Blu-ray players are a rare breed.

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mi_lk
1 hour ago
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> The streaming giant has surprised many in Hollywood by offering assurances that it would continue to allow Warner Bros films to enjoy wide cinematic releases.

At least that part of concern is not guaranteed

https://www.ft.com/content/1b51ca71-9a86-46f5-bdc4-cbd6831b7...

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happymellon
30 minutes ago
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If you believe "assurances that they will let them to continue doing things that are against the parents core business" then you are a fool.

Assurances are worthless because they always are retracted after the sale is complete.

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TylerE
50 minutes ago
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James Cameron is not exactly someone without meat I. The game. Of course he makes self serving comments about whoever he thinks will make him the most money. Don’t be so naive as to think has anything do with art.
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hiddencost
1 hour ago
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Uh it's because the Ellison's bought CBS and put Bari Weiss in charge. That's why it's bad. Because they're bad people with the goal of ending American democracy.
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achow
3 hours ago
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Annapurna Pictures is owned by Megan Ellison. The studio have produced Oscar nominated marquee films like Her, Zero Dark Thirty, American Hustle.
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prodigycorp
1 hour ago
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netflix buying warner would mean essentially the death of the theater business.
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TylerE
48 minutes ago
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The theater business is already dead, it just doesn’t realize it yet.
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the_other
18 minutes ago
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In my opinion, here in the UK, the cinema/theatre business killed itself. Cinemas are horrible places to visit:

- they smell bad (stale junk food)

- they have oppressive lighting (mostly extremely dark but with garish turquoise and pink dazzle, accentuating the most confusing aspects of their architecture)

- the sound systems are thunderously loud (I'll be taking earplugs the next time I go to one)

- most of them are expensive

- most of them only programme big, loud, contemporary Hollywood offerings (which are simiarly horrible high contrast junk food only out to assault the audience); there's little appreciation for the art of cinema

They're like nightclubs, but without the dancing, social interaction, or resistance (a nebulous concept I'm not going into here).

You can say "this is what the market wants", but I wont't believe you. Such an argument is like saying social media (surveilled attention management) is what the market wants. The truth is much closer to "this is what the market can bear before it breaks".

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testdelacc1
2 hours ago
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I wonder if the Ellisons win either way

- any merger they propose will be greenlit by the Trump administration, giving them an advantage. The seller prefers them because the transaction is far more likely to go through.

- Netflix is interested exclusively in the assets and the studio, not in legacy assets like CNN. So Netflix is bidding for that alone. The Ellisons see themselves as recreating the Murdoch playbook. They already control CBS. Even if Netflix succeeds in buying HBO, the Ellisons can pick up CNN later and create a right wing news empire to rival Fox News.

HBO is a nice prize, especially with the prestige and popularity of its content library. But the Ellisons win no matter what.

For viewers and voters I don’t see a win here. HBO production gets Netflix-ified. Say goodbye to quality shows like The Pitt and prepare to welcome streaming-while-scrolling shows like Emily in Paris. And simultaneously you’ll have the Ellisons telling large parts of the population what they’re supposed to think.

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msie
1 hour ago
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ARGGGHHH
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burningChrome
3 hours ago
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HBO cancelled Perry Mason, one of the better done noir detective series. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for me. I still get it free because of my AT&T subscription, but I can't argue that Netflix has really come out with anything really worth watching either - Department Q and Mindhunter are only two that I think of that were decent.

I agree that the majority of stuff on streaming services is complete garbage and nothing is really "binge worthy" like it used to be. The one thing I used to love about Netlfix was going back and watching old movies like Chinatown or To Live and Die in LA. Those are all gone now, replaced with its own produced content that I just think isn't in the same league.

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omnimus
50 minutes ago
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If your metric is only detective stories… i guess? But if you actually compare the quality of anything recent notable from HBO it's not even close. HBO cinematography, production quality, editing, script… its all levels above Netflix. Pick anything The White Lotus, Euphoria, The Last of Us, Peacemaker. Really anything.

Netflix feels like everything is cheap. Maybe Ripley was nice but thats it?

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lastdong
2 hours ago
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Thank you for mentioning Department Q and Mindhunter — these were amazing. Netflix has a lot of content some of it is actually really good.
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kranke155
1 hour ago
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Mindhunter was cancelled for being too expensive.
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kranke155
1 hour ago
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Mindhunter was cancelled - too expensive.
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lotsofpulp
3 hours ago
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HBO died many years ago when ATT fired all the executives that had the taste and vision to make HBO what it was.

They probably had some half decent stuff in the pipeline, but by now, I imagine there is no influence from the HBO of yore.

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kranke155
1 hour ago
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Those people left for Apple.

Reportedly.

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mgh2
3 hours ago
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If they get bought, Apple could be the only lead for quality content.
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another_twist
3 hours ago
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Trash ? The Diplomat has as good a production value as any.

So does Bridgerton. Adolescence is basically a single shot marvel.

Others - Stranger Things, Money Heist, Black Doves.

Not to mention their true crime documentaries.

Warner Brothers makes quality content. I think this is an almost perfect fit.

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spooky_deep
2 hours ago
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None of those are close to peak HBO content sorry.
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omnimus
49 minutes ago
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Ripley is HBO material but its miniseries that was probably bought as it is.
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lukeschlather
1 hour ago
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I would agree. However, I think Kaos, Sirens, and Sweet Tooth are as good as anything I've seen on HBO.
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piva00
1 hour ago
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Production is good but not great, The Diplomat is quite melodramatic going too much into soap opera territory.

Money Heist is completely a soap opera.

Not saying that those aren't good productions but they aren't on par with what HBO used to deliver (True Detective, The Wire, Sopranos, etc.), notwithstanding the leap of faiths HBO take sometimes with stuff like The Rehearsal, and How To With John Wilson.

Netflix is very much formulaic, cinematography of Netflix shows is also quite bland/generified.

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kranke155
1 hour ago
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Netflix shows are forced to become soap operas because although they might have the budgets approaching prestige TV, Netflix might force lengths that push the story into the soap format.
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dyauspitr
47 minutes ago
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Bridgerton is impossible for a man to watch. Adolescence started off well, but then just dragged on for a really long time and ended with a fizzle. Stranger things is okay but eleven, the female protagonist is insufferable.

Mindhunter was probably the last really good show they had. Squid game and dark winds are decent.

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boogieknite
2 hours ago
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maybe things have changed but Netflix has thrown mindblowing amounts at famous people like Howard and Fincher. makes me the slightly hopeful we see another production from the twisted mind of Larry David. or at least the release of his cancelled doc
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apsurd
3 hours ago
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I agree so much with this. And I immediately think about how I have an ongoing Netflix subscription and I have it because after having cancelled due to the complete shit trash they produce, my dad asked me about how to see the Tyson vs Jake Paul fight and it was then that I knew I was cooked.

I am a subscriber and my dad didn't like the fight but is happy to have been part of the experience of seeing it.

I want to in-principle not pay money into this trash. But "humanity" seems to like to want to witness this trash. And I and my extended family are included!

oh dear

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parineum
3 hours ago
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It's so annoying that you totally _have_ to subscribe to this trash product because society is literally forcing you. I know you definitely don't like it but you feel like you have to watch it or you're wasting the money they forced you to spend.

Keep up the good fight and I hope you make it out safe.

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walterbell
2 hours ago
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> totally _have_ to subscribe to this trash product

For cultural context, it's enough to subscribe for one month, once or twice per year, to catch up on a few movies or episodes of popular series. If a series is good enough for longer viewing and subscription, then the product has earned its keep.

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watwut
2 hours ago
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I like netflix content generally. I havent had issue to find something to watch. And they have a lot of good dubbing, so I use it for foreign language traing too.
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thot_experiment
3 hours ago
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I highly recommend the website "youtube.com" there's a lot of content on there that's excellent. I am never for want of something to watch, it sort of seems like an absolute golden age of content production to me.
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parineum
3 hours ago
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I'm trying to watch long form cinematic content, not a 10 minute diy video for turning my toaster into a flamethrower with three minutes of ads and "smash that like button" interspersed.

There wre a few YouTube channels I like but they are all educational where one guy talks to the camera about a thing. Is there decent fiction on YouTube? I haven't seen any.

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thot_experiment
2 hours ago
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Get adblock and sponsorblock, or just yt-dlp it and let it cut out all the cruft, watching youtube with the callouts and sponsor segements left in sucks but we have the technology to solve the problem. I would believe there's good long form fiction content, I've listened to fiction podcasts with sound effects so there's at least that. I mostly watch multiple hour long non-fiction content so there's definitely lots of long form available, but I'm not sure how much fiction there is.
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prophesi
2 hours ago
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I think that's more of an issue of discovery. If I wanted decent fiction, I would actually prefer Apple's catalogue of Sci-Fi shows over anything I can find on Netflix these days. While with Youtube, you can find hidden gems outside their algorithm. In fact, I'd recommend not abiding by the algorithm of any platform and seek outside sources for finding shows you'd enjoy. Each platform has the same goal to retain your attention.
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aspenmayer
50 minutes ago
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The lengths vary, and the channel only recently started their own first-party content production (rather than licensed third-party content), but that being said, the sci-fi channel DUST is a longtime favorite of mine for fiction on YouTube. The quality level is consistently high, if not quite Hollywood budget.

https://www.youtube.com/@watchdust

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AstroNutt
3 hours ago
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Yuck!! My ex forced me into getting a Netflix subscription because she was dying to watch Stranger Things. It wasn't half bad for the simple reason I grew up in the 80's. The only thing I binge watched was Black Mirror, Sense 8 and a few documentaries.

Since I was forced to get a subscription, thankfully I never gave those bastards my CC info. I just created an account and went to Target or Walmart and bought a couple of $30 gift cards and put the code in. When my account ran dry, that was it. The only thing I pay for now is YouTube premium. That's about all the content I consume online. I figured I'd help support my favorite creators rather than using an ad blocker.

Edit: I payed for Disney+ for one month because she wasn't current on Star Wars movies. That was my first red flag with her.

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_puk
3 hours ago
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You're against Netflix on principle, or?

All I read here is, I bought some gift cards, binge watched a couple of decent series, and then moved on.

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AstroNutt
3 hours ago
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Sorry... It's mainly just the whole subscription model from everyone. The things I want to watch are spread out over too many services. Netflix is the worst one because they can't seem to put anything out worth watching.
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mykowebhn
1 hour ago
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If someone didn't know their Star Wars, I'd run the other way too
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omnimus
46 minutes ago
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Are you a child?
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silisili
3 hours ago
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I'm rather curious why they even want HBO. Yes HBO has had far, far more quality programs over the years, but it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to.

Would be a sad day. I typically equate HBO content with focused quality, and Netflix content as the opposite.

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mrweasel
1 hour ago
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> it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to.

Yet they've failed, I think it's a culture problem. Buy HBO and hopefully carry over the culture and skills to Netflix that way is pretty much they only hope. Netflix created a few good series, but it's also clear that they don't have the writing talent to produce the volume they want.

Netflix can produce absolutely beautify shows, but they're not well written. They also can't buy content, because a large number of the license holders have their own streaming platform. Buying HBO could get them access to the content they need, if the contracts and licensing carry over.

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andsoitis
3 hours ago
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Deep IP catalog. DC, Game of Thrones, Harry Potter,….
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mortsnort
2 hours ago
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Netflix paid $500M for the rights to Seinfeld for 5 years to give you an idea of what people are using Netflix for. Why make new content when you can sell old content?
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flanked-evergl
1 hour ago
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Netflix is making new content though. I would prefer they stop, but they are doing it.
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brindy
59 minutes ago
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The thinking in the comments here seems very US-centric (as usual).

Until recently watching HBO in the UK and Europe was not easy unless you’re prepared to watch it on Sky (in the uk anyway) so there’s money on the table for Netflix here in the form of eating some of Sky’s share. (HBO Max is coming to EU in Jan and UK sometime next year finally)

Secondarily adding HBO gives Netflix the opportunity to upgrade its production rather than downgrade HBO.

Having access to HBO/WB catalog on Netflix is going to add a lot of value imo.

I welcome this.

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yalogin
4 hours ago
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Wow if Netflix buys hbo there isn’t really anything more left in the market to compete with them. On the plus side users don’t have to worry about paying for multiple services.
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mikeweiss
4 hours ago
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Ha! I like how you don't say consumers will pay less... Just less companies asking for money.
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etempleton
4 hours ago
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It will be Netflix and Disney as the prominent players with Apple and Amazon representing the high end prestige TV and lowest common denominator content, respectively.
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d3Xt3r
4 hours ago
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Except there's still Paramount, Disney and Hulu, and even if you get them all, there's no guarantee you can stream what you want to watch due to some bullshit regional distribution rights restrictions, which makes no sense in the digital era...
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Simulacra
4 hours ago
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Which may lead to greater piracy
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jader201
3 hours ago
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> Except there's still Paramount, Disney and Hulu

Should be:

> Except there's still Paramount and Disney/Hulu

Disney and Hulu are combining.

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echelon
4 hours ago
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HBO is destination television - it's the taste that Netflix lacks and so desperately needs.

WB and HBO together have the franchises that Netflix has been trying to build. DC, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings (film + game rights - tv rights), West World, The Matrix, Mad Max, King Kong, all of Cartoon Network and Adult Swim.

What does Paramount or Hulu have? It's a lot of fluff on the same or even lower caliber than Netflix.

Amazon gives some good stuff away for "free". Apple has good shows, too.

Disney? Meh - they've got Andor and that's really it.

If whomever buys HBO also also buys A24, it's over. That's all I need.

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throw-away_42
3 hours ago
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Westworld... the show you can't watch on HBO anymore. Taste? Like what they just did to one of the best shows ever, Mad Men? HBO today (Or Max, or HBO Max, or whatever their branding of the day is) is not the HBO it was before David Zaslav got his hands on it.
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d3Xt3r
1 hour ago
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Paramount has Star Trek, so it's a must-have for any Trekkie. And Disney has Star Wars, so it's a must-have for any nerf herder. :p
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pirates
4 hours ago
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Paramount/NBC/Peacock/Fox/ESPN have live sports, which are the only thing left worth paying for, everything else can be skipped or pirated.
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dylan604
3 hours ago
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ESPN comes with your Disney+ which also gives you Hulu

Peacock says they have sports, but then doesn't actually show all of the matches and instead tries to prop up USA and Telemundo numbers. Many times I have to watch a match in a language I'm not fluent even though I'm paying for Peacock specifically as they have the rights. Can't watch USA as I cut the cord years ago, so I'm left with hoping I can find the right spot for my OTA antenna to be able to tune in.

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watwut
2 hours ago
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Westworld, the show that dont exist because they would had to pay royalties to actors and workers?

Screw them. Likr, literally choosing to remove the show to make an example of it.

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dylan604
3 hours ago
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> What does Paramount or Hulu have?

Even less now that Taylor Sheridan has left for greener pastures.

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blackjack_
3 hours ago
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Netflix could have built many franchises by now but instead burns them all in season 1 or season 2 and makes slop on purpose (i.e. explain what you are doing while you are doing it for the people not watching directly, etc). They also just had the most successful franchise launch of all time -- Kpop demon hunters. The brand is apparently worth about 10 billion right now, and they bought the film and the rights from Sony for <20 million.

If they purchase HBO, I assume HBO will regress to the baseline that is Netflix content, not the other way around.

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jrflowers
3 hours ago
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> Disney? Meh - they've got Andor and that's really it.

I like this post about how The Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Mad Max and Harry Potter are all valuable IP written by somebody that appears to have never heard of Marvel comics, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, The Simpsons, any Pixar film, Avatar, The X-Files, or The Bachelor.

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troupo
3 hours ago
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> Disney? Meh - they've got Andor and that's really it.

Disney owns so much content, IP and nostalgia that they don't care much.

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lotsofpulp
3 hours ago
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Pretty sure their shareholders care. Their market cap is at pre 2019 levels. Their earnings are back to 2014 levels.

https://companiesmarketcap.com/walt-disney/earnings/

Meanwhile, Netflix is up $300B since 2019. And Netflix’s earnings are about to surpass Disney’s:

https://companiesmarketcap.com/netflix/earnings/

And Netflix has 13,000 employees, while Disney has 233,000.

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troupo
2 hours ago
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> And Netflix has 13,000 employees, while Disney has 233,000.

And Disney is significantly more than just a single streaming service struggling to get content.

Their Direct-to-Consumer business (aka Netflix equivalent) posted a net profit increase 9.5x year on year (from 143 million to 1.3 billion) and has more than half the number of Netflix subscribers (196 million vs. 300+ million) in significantly shorter time than Netflix. https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-rep...

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AbbeFaria
24 minutes ago
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Sad news. HBO has a veritable treasure trove of TV shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under, Silicon Valley etc. Even their more recent ones like White Lotus, How to With John Wilson are leagues above Netflix. Only HBO can bet on artists’ vision like that.

I cancelled my Netflix subscription 7 years ago, 99% of their content is algorithmic drivel. Mindhunter, Dahmer, House of Cards were something I liked but nothing beyond that. I knew they were trash once I saw the sheer number of spinoffs they have just on Pablo Escobar. They had had one decent run of Narcos but then they just tried to extract every drop of juice out of that one persona. Most of Netflix dramas are just the equivalent of abhorrent and ugly graffiti. Their shows are Exhibit A in what happens if you give into algorithmic drivel and have no human touch to curate them.

HBO has some timeless TV classics that I keep rewatching every year even though I have watched them multiple times. Netflix can’t produce TV dramas like that, ain’t in their blood. Completely different DNAs.

Netflix does deserve all the plaudits wrt to their streaming experience though.

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hxhbbx7
4 hours ago
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All this deal making drama, thats been going in media for a while now hides the fact that Content Supply has vastly overshot Demand to levels that make no sense in any other industry. Cost of tools/production/distribution have all massively dropped over the last 2 decades.

Needs a more sustainable story or oscillations and chaos are going to keep increasing.

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echelon
4 hours ago
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> Content Supply has vastly overshot Demand

Content has never overshot demand.

I would drown myself in content if it were good and abundant. It's not. It's lackluster and middling.

Content is scarce because it is expensive to produce. The wrong people get put in charge of projects (or tastes/reception is hard to gauge, and experiences hard to engineer). We wind up with a lot of expensive garbage.

There is a dearth of sci fi and fantasy. A few dozen titles get created, and half of it is garbage. I have money to pay to watch something every night. It just doesn't exist and isn't good.

I'd pay to watch original content. Original ideas don't get funded because it's "too risky". Which is a consequence of the big budgets, massive personnel and time investments, etc.

I see a film every other year or so where I'm not questioning the character arcs, the pacing. Where I'm fully enveloped and transfixed. That doesn't happen frequently enough. Where every note is perfect. It's rare and fleeting, and that's sad.

We're in the Precambrian times. Great content is nigh non-existent. There's a whole lot of "acceptable" and "good enough". But rarely anything sublime that steals away your brain for the rest of the day, forcing you to ruminate.

I want to live in a world where content fits my preferences like a glove and is constantly surprising and delighting me. Unlimited intellectual stimulation and adventure. I know that pinnacle can be reached eventually, just not with our current limitations. This scarcity trough.

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bbarnett
3 hours ago
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I agree with the glove fit bit, while at the same time thinking that we're at the next level of siloed bubbles. All aspects of your world, tailored to how you already think, including TV series/movies/etc.

No new ideas.

(Not saying this is your intent, and yes I do indeed watch what I like. I am not immune to the very thing I worry about)

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echelon
3 hours ago
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Don't get me wrong - I might have poorly communicated my intent.

I want to be catered to and subverted. I want to see things I'm comfortable with and things that make me question everything I know. Things that make me deeply uncomfortable. The full range of experiences.

I just want it to be great and hit the notes in ways that leave me in awe.

This does happen with current media, but it's exceedingly rare. It's a combination of great writing, fantastic direction, unusual stories, phenomenal acting. The mood, set dec and DP, the pacing and editing. Everything lining up in a stroke of brilliance.

And what's funny is that when it happens, people tend to disagree or have differing opinions about it. It's deeply personal.

You know when something speaks to you.

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bbarnett
1 hour ago
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I agree. And I don't think you communicated it poorly, it's just that I think it will be more and more difficult to get that full range. Most folk don't want that. Most even prefer siloed.

Yet perhaps I am too jaded on this. There will be lots of niche content...

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prmoustache
3 hours ago
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> Content has never overshot demand.

>

> I would drown myself in content if it were good and abundant. It's not. It's lackluster and middling

There is only an amount of time per day you can dedicate spending in front of a screen outside of work hours

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Larrikin
3 hours ago
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What are some good sci-fis in your opinion?
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bbarnett
3 hours ago
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And there will be more of it. Really of what value is HBO, if generative AI and video generation get better, and better, and better.

In 5 years, compute to AI generate video will be super cheap, both through algo being added to silicon for (C|G|T)PUs, and just general increase in compute. Every day, you'll likely see 1000s of TV series, movies, and shorts added to youtube, all with more complex, intriguing stories than the bottom 1/2 of HBO's mix. And the effects will pass or be on par.

I think this will do for movies and TV series, what the internet did to newspapers and magazines. There's really nothing left there, all the deep talent and investigation is pretty much gone.

There will probably be some real gems come out of this. Yet how will you actually find it, through all the "look at mine!" astroturfing and its kin on every site you visit?

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jusonchan81
2 hours ago
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I doubt this will clear the government/regulatory approvals as it seems clearly monopolistic. But these days anything can happen and I might end up being surprised. Netflix stock seems stable in-spite of this news.
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bluehatbrit
1 hour ago
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Great for shareholders, terrible for consumers. This is what we get when we allow rampant consolidation and throw out the idea of regulated competition.
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mrweasel
1 hour ago
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It's not like there's really any competition anyway. Prices are going up, I can't switch from Netflix to HBO, because the content is available across platforms.

If Netflix just moves the HBO content to Netflix then that's one subscription less for a lot of people, so even if Netflix subscription goes up, many will still save money.

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alsetmusic
3 hours ago
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Couldn't do worse than Zaslav…
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kacesensitive
3 hours ago
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Only if they change the name several times only to revert back to the original
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K3UL
3 hours ago
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This is definitely the worst timeline
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t0lo
3 hours ago
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This is worse than Burger King buying Michelin and Nobu
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t0lo
3 hours ago
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Bait and switch... every time... the business world never changes
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ChrisArchitect
6 hours ago
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Dec 5th? They're a bit behind on this one. Without any concrete source. There's been talk as far back as Monday that Warner is 'warming' to Netflix, so...

Earlier on a different site with an actual named source; and mention of the stock fallout from the hint.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46141031

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cess11
3 hours ago
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I'd wager that it would accelerate rather than decelerate the growing insignificance of US entertainment.

Good for Bollywood, chinese and russian cinema, and so on. For me personally, I have trouble imagining that HBO would ever again be involved in something on par with The Wire, Sopranos or True Blood, and it's not exactly hard to keep them around on a hard drive somewhere.

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ChrisArchitect
6 hours ago
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andrewstuart
3 hours ago
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HBO the only definitively quality TV producer headed for enshittification.
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wilg
3 hours ago
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It's interesting that despite their being a huge crop of talented, rich, and famous Hollywood actors, writers, producers, and directors, they can't figure out how to make movies and TV and distribute them without going through all these enormous conglomerates that they seem to truly despise.

Just start a studio and put out quality content exactly the way you want it and see if you can do better! It's literally never been easier! If the chucklefucks who run these streaming services can figure it out, some smart filmmakers should be able to put together a workable business plan while Clooney and Pitt rizz up some investors.

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t0lo
3 hours ago
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It's a symptom of a culture in crisis- how can you make popular tv shows if there isn't even a popular consensus for what reality is right now
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chistev
3 hours ago
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HBO should be the one to buy Netflix
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dylan604
3 hours ago
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That's like saying Ford should by Yugo. Why? They are small and insignificant and might not be around very long as they are making things people don't like.
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chistev
3 hours ago
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HBO is making things people don't like?
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amitav1
3 hours ago
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I think that the joke there was that Netflix is small and insignificant and HBO is big and buff.
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dylan604
3 hours ago
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More that Netflix is making things people don't like
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andsoitis
3 hours ago
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> More that Netflix is making things people don't like

And yet, more than 300 million households around the world who pay a subscription every month

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mstipetic
3 hours ago
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Making money is the only important measure of quality. Because hes a billionaire, Mr. Beast is our generations best filmmaker
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