Tesla Optimus robot takes a suspicious tumble in new demo
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5 hours ago
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| electrek.co
| HN
LorenDB
3 hours ago
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All observations about teleoperation aside, it's just really funny to me how the robot appears to knock over the water bottles, throw its hands up in exasperation, and then give up and fall down. It somehow makes it feel more human.
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rasz
1 hour ago
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>teleoperation aside ... feel more human

umm, so ignoring it was operated by a human it acted surprisingly human like? :)

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energy123
3 hours ago
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These will be hazardous to children.
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parineum
2 hours ago
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Not if they aren't deployed near children.
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hintklb
2 hours ago
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Ah yes, Think of the children! [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

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NathanKP
2 hours ago
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No.

This is a real issue. If a robot is fully AI powered and doing what it does fully autonomously, then it has a very different risk profile compared to a teleoperated robot.

For example, you can be fairly certain that given the current state of AI tech, an AI powered robot has no innate desire to creep on your kids, while a teleoperated robot could very well be operated remotely by a pedophile who is watching your kids through the robot cameras, or attempting to interact with them in some way using the robot itself.

If you are allowing this robot device to exist in your home, around your valuables, and around the people you care for, then whether these robots operate fully autonomously, or whether a human operator is connecting via the robot is an extremely significant difference, that has very large safety consequences.

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hintklb
2 hours ago
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I actually agree with you on this. I think those robots are going to be a huge danger for society and everyone (not only children).

But nonetheless I was pointing out that using the "Think of the children" as an argument is a push to emotions rather than a more rational thinking.

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energy123
2 hours ago
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Tip risk of furniture is a unique risk for children and is not abstract or far-fetched.
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treetalker
3 hours ago
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Sub-Optimus was just worn out from its late night at E11EVEN.
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alsetmusic
2 hours ago
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> Even recently, Musk fought back against the notion that Tesla relies on teleoperation for its Optimus demonstration. He specified that a new demo of Optimus doing kung-fu was “AI, not tele-operated”

The world's biggest liar, possibly. It's insane to me that laws and regulations haven't stopped him from lying to investors and the public, but that's the world in which we live.

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parineum
2 hours ago
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The FCC would have a whole lot to say if he was lying about something like that at a publicly traded company.
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lesuorac
1 hour ago
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What would the FCC do?

The SEC didn't even enforce the whole he can't run his twitter account punishment for tweeting that he took TSLA private at 420.

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sidcool
1 hour ago
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Fred Lambert's blogs about Tesla are always critical and have been proven wrong many times. I would take it with a pinch of salt.
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thejazzman
53 minutes ago
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Can you elaborate? I read electrek pretty closely and if anything most of the time Tesla/Elon deny things only for it to be proven true shortly later

Like many many times..

Genuinely like to spot what I missed

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