Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect dec.18th
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2 hours ago
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pzo
6 minutes ago
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It seems we in EU got the worst implementation for apple malicious compliance. It should have been similar like this one Japan from the beginning.
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shlip
2 hours ago
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JFTC's full 'Mobile Software Competition Act Guidelines' are available here : https://www.jftc.go.jp/file/MSCA_Guidelines_tentative_transl...

Curious to see how Apple and Google are going to circumvent this.

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madeofpalk
10 minutes ago
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How is it different to what Apple’s done in the EU, with allowing for third party app stores there.
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Mathnerd314
31 minutes ago
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how does this interact with Google's push to sign all apps?
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ChrisArchitect
2 hours ago
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Some background:

Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competition (2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36368735

Japan enacts law to promote competition in smartphone app stores (2024)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40662176

iOS 26.2 to allow third-party app stores in Japan ahead of regulatory deadline (Nov 2025)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45822302

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websiteapi
1 hour ago
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Sony and Nintendo stores are still closed I see lol
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socalgal2
1 hour ago
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Sony and Nintendo only sell games. They don't gate access to banks, investments, health insurance, auto insurance, news, movies, social media, car control apps, appliance apps, grocery stores, e-commerce, etc...

That's not to say Sony and Nintendo shouldn't be opened too but their impact is much smaller (game devs) than Apple (nearly all businesses)

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charcircuit
14 minutes ago
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The switch eshop has youtube which I would count as social media.
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websiteapi
1 hour ago
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Apple didn’t start that way though. Better to open it up now no? Also, a better law would be making the web first class, not adding more stores, with other gatekeepers…
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ghurtado
1 hour ago
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> Also, a better law would be

No, the better law is the one that exists.

Yours doesn't.

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websiteapi
53 minutes ago
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Laws aren’t inherently good though… we will see what this does for Japan, I guess.
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dangus
57 minutes ago
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It should be pointed out that they have way less of a monopoly on the market and way more gaming alternatives exist than Apple and Google.

Apple, Google. Two app stores that are basically necessary for existing in the modern world with a smartphone, which include apps covering Japanese government services.

In the gaming space, you’ve got PlayStation Store, Xbox Store, Nintendo eShop, Steam, Epic Game Store, GOG, a bazillion publisher storefronts, Apple and Google (again), Itch.io, physical media for the big 3 consoles at dozens of brick and mortar retailers, or even installing games directly with no store at all (Minecraft originated from its own online purchase portal).

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