PBS News Hour West to go dark after ASU discontinues contract
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mikeyouse
5 hours ago
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Of course it’s due to the federal funding cuts. At least DHS got 2,000x more than these cuts saved from PBS as our deficit continues to explode.

https://current.org/2025/11/weta-to-cut-staff-cancel-pbs-new...

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junkypuppet
5 hours ago
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The article doesn’t mention it, but I wonder if this has anything to do with ASU’s President trying to cozy up with the Trump administration [0]. Trump has already at least tried to cut federal funding for PBS [1]. I’m not sure where that’s at now.

[0]: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/arizona-state-universi...

[1]: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/02/nx-s1-5384790/trump-orders-en...

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slicedice
5 hours ago
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It got cut.
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DrewADesign
5 hours ago
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People shouting about PBS news being horribly biased are just flat-out wrong. Obviously their viewership leans centrist liberal, but no other news program in recent times approached their level of nonpartisanship when dealing with national politics. Regardless of their affiliation, they’d ask most interviewees a couple of pointed questions but always let them explain themselves uninterrupted, and let them have the last word unless it was blatantly false. In the Obama era they regularly had top Republican leadership on from that era and years past— Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich, and Mitch McConnell were on there all the time. I’ve seen Steve Bannon respectfully (actually rather warmly) interviewed within the past year, as well as people from the heritage foundation, Manhattan institute, Cato institute, and other people from across the right-wing spectrum.

David Brooks isn’t representative of the Republican mainstream at the moment, but they’ve started getting more representative Republican counterpoints on their panels over the past few months, even after the republicans cut their funding.

They present a more reasonable, tempered, and charitable perspective on both political parties than any other major news outlet.

Culture war bullshit.

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every
3 hours ago
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PBS and NPR have long been my go-to sources for news. Very much in the classic "who, what, when and where" vein. Editorial content is small, segregated and usually includes advocates for both sides. Blissfully boring and informative...
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wahern
2 hours ago
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NPR News veered sharply left over the past ~10 years, even more so local affiliate programming like that put out by KQED. In the past year or two there's been a moderate course correction, but their reporting is still clearly stuck in a liberal cognitive bubble.[1] I think a large part of it was the generational turnover that occurred, and their eagerness to "speak the truth", emboldened by the belief that any random sociology study that happened to support their view firmly established their beliefs as scientific fact, unchecked once Republicans disengaged from earnest empirical debate. But I agree about PBS, they managed to stay the course.

[1] NPR generally has always had a liberal bias, but their professionalism was sufficient to keep them straight shooting. Even Justice Scalia used to listen to NPR News, at least as late as the aughts.

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DrewADesign
2 hours ago
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I do agree that NPR is less neutral than PBS but if you want to hear what harder left political commentary sounds like, listen to an episode of Chapo Trap House. NPR isn’t sharply left— they’re very on the very mainstream end of liberal centrist with an occasional smattering of “I was a socialist for a semester in college” liberal in their editorial content— they’re just not shy about it.

PBS on the other hand— while obviously coming from an institution that exists because of things liberals value— clearly puts a lot of effort into representing most mainstream views charitably. It’s almost like if Reuters had a daily news hour.

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meltyness
3 hours ago
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The first half is usually solid, the back half is, well, usually more opinionated/softer. Lots of interviews with professors who seek to have their opinions represented as facts or members of the public have their plight elevated as serious national policy concerns.
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DrewADesign
1 hour ago
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Sure there’s definitely a change in content but I don’t think it’s quite that bad. Tonight was capehart and brooks— who has never supported Trump even though he’s a conservative, so not a great foil for capehart… Pretty soft/polite analysis that always feels very late-aughts. Yesterday was someone who worked in the state department for 25 years giving a pretty dry breakdown on Venezuela. the night before that was a professor from Tulane criticizing trump’s strategy on Venezuela. The night before that was an interview with Bill Cassidy explaining the GOP health care proposal he co-authored, and a report from someone embedded with the Lebanese army. I wouldn’t exactly say it’s like a rehash of the conversation at the campus coffee shop over there.
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Braxton1980
3 hours ago
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>professors who seek to have their opinions represented as facts

How do they do that and how do you know it's their intent?

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meltyness
3 hours ago
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=oqr95elV5io&t=2108s

Probably best to dissect a specimen. I guess really the guy's just hocking his book here, but it's vacuous and packed with opinions and pessimism, and really not particularly high quality journalism.

For example, I disagree with the opinion that LLMs can't be a free lunch, or at least can't be CAPEX instead of OPEX, which Reich doesn't realize in the stated opinion.

I had to go back pretty far to find a professor, specifically, the first few were social outreach or labor organizers.

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Braxton1980
3 hours ago
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Your claim was professors want their opinions to be considered fact.

Promoting a book doesn't do that. Having opinions is normal and what we are talking about. Whether the person is pessimistic has no relevance here and I would like to know why you presented that as evidence.

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meltyness
3 hours ago
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It's a national federally funded organization and they want to chat on about justice and fairness, literally asking in order "how does this effect diversity? oh. How about equity? oh. how about inclusion?", and it's such a surprise that it costs a trillion dollars to not plop a choo-choo from LA to SF when everyone "feels like it"? It's gross, it's gross to me. Stick to the news.
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wyldfire
4 hours ago
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> People shouting about PBS news being horribly biased are just flat-out wrong.

"Truth is treason in an empire of lies" - George Orwell

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chasil
3 hours ago
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Forgeties79
4 hours ago
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After I heard someone call McConnell a RINO I knew that no amount of concessions would make them feel coverage was “fair.” It’s Trump’s way or the highway.
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slantedview
4 hours ago
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It's no coincidence that at a time of eroding democracy, public journalism is being cut.
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meltyness
3 hours ago
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As an avid and long term PBS viewer, donor, news hour west was 90% a waste of time anyway. Most evenings it is virtually the same broadcast, same segments. Media is more VOD-oriented anyway. They have been posting both broadcasts to YouTube for years, so you can assess this if you'd like.

The exception is if there's something notable to report on between 5PM and 8PM EST

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chasil
3 hours ago
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At the same time, even with the mayhem of the current executive, it is important to read the room.

The house of representatives controls the budget. Moderating perceived bias would be an obvious survival strategy.

Edit: Oh, drat, I've been ostracized. Whatever will I do?

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Braxton1980
3 hours ago
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>Moderating perceived bias would be an obvious survival strategy.

>Oh, drat, I've been ostracized. Whatever will I do?

Because you seemed to think the issue was the lack of reason when it's actually the reason itself.

Also, the government acting on perception instead of evidence is horrible.

In my opinion the claims of bias at PBS were done to keep the core Republican voter base energized. They've been told to not trust the media while Trump appoints multiple Foxnews employees to high level positions in the government.

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chasil
3 hours ago
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Right. Posted below, but this is clear as reported by their own.

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

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user3939382
4 hours ago
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ASU accepted $20M in criminal gains IMHO AFAICT. I have receipts
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RickJWagner
5 hours ago
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I’m glad Walter Cronkite is remembered through that school. In my mind, he was one of the last great journalists from an era that wasn’t strongly politically biased.
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lettergram
5 hours ago
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When I read that I'm always personally confused. He had a commanding voice and had an aurora of being above it all. But when you listened and watched what he actually did, he seemed very political in my mind, though perhaps more of a moderate(?).

He even advocated for world government, endorsed politicians, etc.

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themafia
4 hours ago
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Uncritically accepted the Warren Report.
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Braxton1980
3 hours ago
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Is it possible you think there's a stronger political bias in the media today than in the past because of proganda designed to make you think that?
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zzzeek
3 hours ago
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Paging MacKenzie Scott....
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