Oh thank goodness.
This whole product idea is further trying to gatekeep computing hardware. You will pay a cloud subscription to perform anything remotely computationally taxing.
What’s wrong with that?
Do you market Copilot?
One could also couple it with AR glasses like the XREAL One and have portable computing but more immersive (although it looks a little big for that).
I don't understand the scepticism - surely it's good that we see some experimentation again on the form factor of computing, we cannot just accept that the laptop is all we'll ever get. Yeah, the copy is stupid, but that's just marketing.
Absolutely not.
For a kiosk, I want everything the user is touching to be effectively disposable. Keyboards and mice are cheap and trivial to replace, this design integrates the most important part of the system in to one of the easiest parts to damage/steal. It's possibly the worst way to do a kiosk.
For a shared workstation, likewise if I'm the user I want to be able to bring my own keyboard and mouse, both for sanitary reasons (have you seen the way people treat their own keyboards, much less shared ones?) and for personal preference. This design integrates the most important part of the system with the part most likely to get gunked up.
Even for the idea of a shared docking station where each user has their own keyboard PC, it's a crappy keyboard. Perhaps if it were a nice mechanical board with swappable keyswitches that might not be terrible, but as it is it's all of the downsides of a laptop without the ability to actually use it undocked.
Whatever use cases may exist where this is actually an improvement are very specific niches.
It's locking up the rest of the cables that'll be the issue, as well as a preference for ethernet. Mice and ethernet cables were stolen the most... inevitably the mice ending making cheapo Chromebooks less miserable, and the ethernet cables ended up at LAN parties.
The users we trusted got laptops anyway.
Or built like a tank that is easy to powerwash.
I don't know who this is for.
So previously you would have a screen, mouse and keyboard at every desk and people would move a laptop (ignoring its low res screen and bad keyboard).
Here you would have just a screen at every desk and people move their mouse and keyboard.
Also, this does have a battery.
It has an “Optional...internal battery” that “lets you go between workspaces without rebooting”.
100 svchost.exe processes, Croudstrike, Ivanti and one more antispyware for "compliance". Yes, no more power left for actual computation.
But ugly and taking up space, which is why the iMac exists and has been pretty successful for decades at this point.
> If you need mobility between desks, a small form factor PC would be easier
Maybe, but performant AR glasses are changing that equation. The cyberdeck, as an ideal, still exists for a reason.
> if you are an employer and expect employees to work from home on this keyboard, you need to buy monitors for their homes.
Do you? Is that law where you live? Because it's definitely not here in UK. I'd rather work on my trusty 4k than some shitty cheapo Dell only provided to tick a box.
HP recommends Windows 11 Pro for Business. Not all features are available in all editions or versions of Windows. Systems may require upgraded and/or separately purchased hardware, drivers, software or BIOS update to take full advantage of Windows functionality. Windows 11 is automatically updated, which is always enabled. High speed internet and Microsoft account required. ISP fees may apply and additional requirements may apply over time for updates.
Features and software that require a NPU may require software purchase, subscription or enablement by a software or platform provider, and third-party software may have specific configuration or compatibility requirements. Potential NPU inferencing performance varies by use, configuration, and other factors.
Microsoft Copilot requires Windows 11. Some features require an NPU. Timing of feature delivery and availability varies by market and device. Requires Microsoft account to log in. Where Copilot is not available, the Copilot key will lead to the Bing search engine.
> Requires Microsoft account to log in. Where Copilot is not available, the Copilot key will lead to the Bing search engine.
An Apple account is most certainly not needed to log in. In-fact being online is not even a requirement for Apple devices. Wild idea, I know.
Any idea why raspberry didn’t use compute modules in the pi500? IMHO that should have been trivially upgradable but will likely be the shortest lived keyboard I’ve ever had when the pi6 comes out.
I’m excited though. I always liked that form factor. Add some good HUD glasses and a mouse and were sailing free!
Actual coverage from Ars: HP's EliteBoard G1a is a Ryzen-powered Windows 11 PC in a membrane keyboard (3 points) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46551335
> Alternatively, HP’s EliteBoard will bring Windows and a more powerful x86 architecture to the keyboard-PC form factor. HP says the EliteBoard will support Windows 11 Pro for Business and an AMD Ryzen AI 300-series processor with an up to 50 TOPs NPU. The device will be sold with a 32 W internal battery and is part of Microsoft’s Copilot+ PC program.
These are great. The Ryzen AI series are the ones that allow memory to be shared between the GPU and CPU, so you can use almost all your system RAM to run local models.
The AI 395+ MAX is available with up to 128Gb RAM (and I think 256Gb is coming).
The important thing is how much RAM it comes with because it is soldered - and for some reason this doesn't seem to show the RAM!
The main advantage seems to be that, if you try to actually use it, it will force you to take a break, because your fingers will be burning from touching the keys heated by the processor.
Funny because I don't mind 17°C outside.
Funnily enough, with the name being “HP EliteBoard G1a Next Gen AI PC”, I know I’m supposed to read it as “(next gen) ai”, but I can’t help seeing “next (gen ai)”.