Distributed Denial of Secrets
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3 days ago
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| ddosecrets.com
| HN
Erenay09
11 hours ago
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Why I can't enter site?

https giving ssl protocol error. http redirecting me to: http://MY_IP_ADDRESS/landpage?op=1&ms=http://ddosecrets.com/

I don't think that's the purpose of the site.

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Erenay09
11 hours ago
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After 10 reloads, works now
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some_furry
11 hours ago
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DDoSecrets does a wonderful public service, and I'm glad they exist.
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broochcoach
10 hours ago
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That they gatekeep certain information for whatever defines a credible journalist in their mind makes me distrust them. Feels like another Bellingcat. Superficially about outing the wicked, but ultimately aligned with the powers that be.
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wakawaka28
1 hour ago
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I got that impression too. Gatekeeping sensitive information is not necessarily bad, but the entire thing is sketchy. For example, is it legal or ethical for this group to have Washington Post data that was leaked or stolen? Are we really supposed to be against something called "Free Speech Union" because of the owners having controversial views? There is clearly a political angle to most of the stuff I've seen at a glance, and a lot of politics on one side only.
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aleksandrm
13 hours ago
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Wikileaks v2?
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littlestymaar
12 hours ago
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I'm not convinced the WhiteLeaks should be there. In fact I don't even believe WhiteLeaks should have been published.

Don't get me wrong, Nazi ideology is disgusting and these people are scum, but I don't think being an asshole with retarded ideology is enough to lose your fundamental human rights. These people are idiots indeed but they haven't done anything to deserve that (unlike say ICE agents, Silicon Valley billionaires, or other actual fascism enablers).

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notepad0x90
8 hours ago
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If your ideology involves hurting people, to a point, you should be left alone by the government. but by that same principle, others should be left alone too when they show similar levels of hostility or worse.

You shouldn't lose your fundamental human rights, up to a point, that point is when you start believing and spreading a belief that other people should lose their fundamental human rights.

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wakawaka28
22 minutes ago
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If only it were that simple. People seem to have to constantly argue about what human rights actually are. They use free speech to argue for all kinds of censorship for example. Censoring and harassing people who think differently will rarely do more than make them angry. Philosophers even centuries ago figured out that free speech is a most essential freedom and must be nearly unlimited in a free society, but it's a constant struggle to maintain this ideal in the face of the fearful and easily offended.
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420official
12 hours ago
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What fundamental human rights are being lost by outing someone's ideology? I am not making a claim here, just asking for clarification.
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littlestymaar
11 hours ago
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It's not about outing ideology, it's about publishing personal information. And I believe privacy is a fundamental human right (yeah, bold take in this day and age but I'll die on that hill).
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wakawaka28
1 hour ago
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I bet a lot of the people who signed up to that site were just white people interested in dating people similar to themselves without being shamed for it. There is a lot of shitting on white people out there and the liberal "thought leaders" are just starting to barely acknowledge some of the damage they've done. I doubt that the dating site was advertised as a Nazi hangout, and probably nobody could see inside unless they made an account that passed the sniff test.
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Y-bar
11 hours ago
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These people are actively working towards genociding groups of people. It’s not just a ”stupid ideology”. It’s a murderous ideology, it’s an ideology that actively denies the humanity and life of people. These people chose to do that, they chose to support and work their society towards a new holocaust.
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littlestymaar
11 hours ago
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> These people are actively working towards genociding groups of people

(Emphasis mine).

No they aren't. Or rather some of them may, but many aren't. Many of them are just brainwashed terminally online dudes who believe progressive values are why they can't be happy. These people don't actively work towards anything, they are literal losers. (I have a family relative who's like that, he says he wants to build a Christian family with many children to defend the white race, but he's desperately single and doesn't even show up in the events organized by his parents' parish to help young people found families. In fact, there are more girls than guys in these events, and they aren't the liberal type).

The people who are actively working on helping the fascist deserve all what we can throw at them (and not just figuratively), but this isn't the kind of people you'll find in The WhiteLeaks.

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Y-bar
1 hour ago
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The road to new genocides is a core tenet of white supremacy. Denying that is like denying that Buddhists meditate. Maybe you need to ask yourself why you are consistently trying to defend people who stand outside my home shouting seig heil and want to murder me and people like me?
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broochcoach
10 hours ago
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What’s the body count of white nationalists last year? Is there even 1? I think you’re falling for the hyperbolic language of political operators who want to scare you into voting for the scumbags that keep them employed.
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asmodeuslucifer
6 hours ago
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The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has documented over 100 people killed in the United States and Canada in attacks committed by extremists linked to the white supremacist movement since 2014.

google is your friend

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wakawaka28
46 minutes ago
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So 10 per year across 2 countries? You know, Google also says that 20-30 people die of lightning strikes per year in the US alone. Lightning injury rates are higher still. The more you know!
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bigbadfeline
8 hours ago
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> Nazi ideology is disgusting

Disgusting is the least of its problems. I'm not saying this in connection to the privacy issue, it's just weird to see something like "death is icky, it smells bad".

> I don't think being an asshole with retarded ideology is enough to lose your fundamental human rights.

I don't know who is being doxed by WhiteLeaks, but again, the bigger problem is that doxing creates threats to personal welfare, health and life.

I'm not sure how doxing can be stopped in the current polarized political environment, both sides use it as a weapon... because it works as such. Maybe we should focus on that problem instead.

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sabaimran
5 hours ago
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The death of privacy is definitely a more fundamental issue here, outside of politics. In an ideal world, private citizens, even if they have notorious views, have a right to privacy.
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