Satellites encased in wood are in the works
44 points
3 days ago
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| economist.com
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alnwlsn
3 hours ago
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I could have sworn I remember hearing about some historical satellites involving wood in some way and I guess it was this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanhui_Shi_Weixing

>The successful recovery of an FSW-0 recoverable satellite in 1974 established China as the third nation to launch and recover a satellite

>A novel feature of the spacecraft's re-entry module was the use of impregnated oak, a natural material, as the ablative material for its heat shield.

Edit: There's more! As usual, Scott Manley has it covered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtxYP9fLMmk

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tyre
21 minutes ago
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I know we’re not supposed to make comments that don’t contribute anything, but that’s really hckin cool.

* have mercy on me dang

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gnabgib
3 hours ago
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https://archive.is/3qot3

Related (same company) on this recycled post from econo:

Wooden satellite heads to space in Mars exploration test (105 points, 2024, 71 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42051687

Japan to launch first wooden satellite to combat space pollution (55 points, 2024, 17 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39414641

Related - different company:

Woodsat: A Space Agency Will Launch a Tiny, Wooden Satellite (105 points, 2021, 18 comments)https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27549097

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fouc
3 hours ago
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Interesting… apparently the advantages are:

    * cheaper material
    * naturally dampens vibrations -> can potentially help sensitive instruments
    * naturally insulates heat better -> saves power on heating
    * doesn't block radio frequencies -> lower drag in low orbits -> 50% longer orbital time
    * fully burns up on re-entry
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CableNinja
36 minutes ago
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downsides is that wood is porous and full of things that dont do well in extreme cold and vacuum. These wont last long, will become very brittle, and have the potential of offgassing things that hardware doesnt like.
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peyton
34 minutes ago
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Wonder about suitability for habitat construction, especially extraterrestrially. Apparently some plants have been grown in regolith samples. Would be wild if there’s a way to close the cycle on building materials very quickly.
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tkgally
21 minutes ago
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fuddle
3 hours ago
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Next, we'll be building Treeships.

https://hyperioncantos.fandom.com/wiki/Treeship

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vjvjvjvjghv
1 hour ago
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Some Silicon Valley startup will probably come up with the innovative idea of building ships from wood and propelling them with wind power. As long as they are adding AI it will probably be worth a few billion investment .
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adrianN
58 minutes ago
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Propelling ships with hydrogen or methane made with wind power is the most probable path for fuel in the next decades.
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schaum
45 minutes ago
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This would be too reasonable.
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goopypoop
1 hour ago
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worth a punt
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anovikov
19 minutes ago
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I wonder if they thought about offgassing... Even without materials as flimsy as that, offgassing from things one totally won't expect it is a big problem with satellites. Heat cycles due to night/day side changing every 90 minutes or so + vacuum, makes it a really hard problem to solve. Just can't expect it to work with wood.
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trhway
3 hours ago
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may be a material of future - "compressed" wood stronger and lighter than steel https://www.fastcompany.com/91334748/superwood-stronger-than...

"has a 50% greater tensile strength than steel and a strength-to-weight ratio that’s 10 times better. "

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syntaxing
58 minutes ago
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Nile red made a fun video about the original prototype (transparent wood)!
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moomoo11
1 hour ago
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what about bamboo? could that be "compressed" and used? bc that stuff grows like crazy and is easy to harvest.
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throwup238
32 minutes ago
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It’s called engineered bamboo [1] but it’s not widely used yet as a load bearing material because manufacturers are still working on certifying it with building code organizations (and it may not be strong enough).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineered_bamboo

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fredthompson
3 hours ago
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Uh...nothing new here....been done many, many years ago because...easy way to stealth a satellite...
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doanbactam
2 hours ago
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Clever idea to avoid the aluminum
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Rebelgecko
55 minutes ago
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Ok clanker
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