French streamer unbanked by Qonto after criticizing Palantir and Peter Thiel
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GuB-42
4 minutes ago
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Like everyone else, I am very skeptical that it is somehow related, for several reasons.

- He is just a small time streamer, I didn't watch his videos but it looks like typical clickbait content playing on people's paranoia. Why would Palantir care about it?

- I didn't watch the videos in question, but I suppose that he says that Palentir is evil because it is used by police forces to attack poor migrants, that kind of thing. Not only he is saying what everyone is saying, but it may be good advertising for Palantir, as it shows that they are good at their (evil) job.

- Streisand effect, I am sure that even the idiots at Palantir know that it may not be a good idea to give attention to a streamer who annoys them.

- Speaking of attention, it is highly likely that the streamer in question was unbanked for a completely unrelated reason but saw the opportunity to make buzz, and it seems to be working!

- There seem to be no further evidence connecting the two.

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walletdrainer
48 minutes ago
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Zero indication that these things are related in any way.

The streamer is a self-admitted basket case who does not “believe in coincidences”. As far as weird internet belief systems go, this one seems even a bit weirder than people who refuse to believe in a somewhat spherical earth.

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input_sh
32 minutes ago
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What indication would there be that the two are related? Do you expect them to write an email specifically stating that was the reason?

For what it's worth, that neobank received funding from his company, which definitely raises the odds of the two being related.

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gruez
22 minutes ago
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>What indication would there be that the two are related? Do you expect them to write an email specifically stating that was the reason?

I'd want to see a pattern of multiple critics being banned. In the same video he admits that neobanks have a history of banning clients arbitrarily for seemingly no reason. Just a few months ago there was a story of someone being banned from wise for seemingly dumb reasons made it to the front page[1], so it's certainly possible for people to get banned because of pure incompetence. Therefore you'd expect a base rate of Palantir/Thiel critics banned from pure coincidence alone.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45766253

>For what it's worth, that neobank received funding from his company, which definitely raises the odds of the two being related.

Right, just like you can come up with some spurious relationships from people being banned from wise, like the CEO hating pineapple on pizza (example, no idea whether he actually does) and the person being banned liking pineapple on pizza.

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input_sh
12 minutes ago
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> I'd want to see a pattern of multiple critics being banned.

So it's cool if one person gets deplatformed, as long as it's not a pattern? Odd choice if you ask me.

Personally if one side is financially backed by someone as insane as Thiel, I tend to need very little evidence from the other side to believe it.

For what it's worth Wise was also funded by Thiel, so he'd be somewhat to blame (not fully, of course) for that incompetence as well.

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josephcsible
5 minutes ago
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> So it's cool if one person gets deplatformed, as long as it's not a pattern? Odd choice if you ask me.

No, it's not cool even if it's just one person. The point is that you should be upset at the bank for arbitrarily banning someone for no reason, but not at Peter Thiel or Palantir, since it being just one non-high-profile critic means there's no good reason to think they had anything to do with it.

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SpicyLemonZest
6 minutes ago
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It raises the odds I suppose, but through what mechanism would something like this even work? Like, the story would have to be:

* Peter Thiel, a man who does not speak French, discovers that a French streamer is saying mean things about Palantir. Lots of people say mean things about Palantir, since they do so many bad things, but this particular criticism is just so cutting Thiel feels he has to do something about it.

* He searches through every investment he's ever made, singling out all the French ones, and sends their executive teams an email saying that this one specific French guy sucks and they shouldn't do business with him.

* The executive team at Qonto, a profitable company with 600,000 customers and almost €500M in annual revenue, receives the message and decides that they'd like to help one of their dozens of investors with his personal revenge campaign.

It's not 100% impossible, but it's so implausible I don't think it's reasonable to believe based on a coincidence.

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IncreasePosts
22 minutes ago
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First, we would need to understand if he was actually de-banked.

Then, we would need to understand what his actual criticism was. Have other people made similar criticisms and faced de-banking?

Then, we would need to understand his other activities, and whether they could have led to a de-banking (if he was in fact de-banked).

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saghm
11 minutes ago
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Yeah, even with the usual guidance around editorializing headlines and the inherent difficulty in trying to summarize a tweet into a headline-sized snippet, it's worth noting that the title on this comment thread itself doesn't even directly claim any connection. Someone could just as easily state "French streamer Unbanked by Qonoto after eating a salami and cheese sandwich", and if that's what they ate for lunch the day before, it would be equally accurate but unlikely to be considered noteworthy.
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bhouston
51 minutes ago
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That can not be actually what happened is it? That would be insane.

It should be against the law to privately retaliate like this.

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digiown
8 minutes ago
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If banks have to insert themselves into every transaction (cash is banned for larger transactions), then it follows that debanking should be viewed as a legal instrument of punishment, and should only be allowed following a violation of the law, and subject to the usual due process like fines or prison sentences. Anything else is a significant infringement on personal freedom.
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dust42
25 minutes ago
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There are now quite a few cases in Europe where the EU or local govs been de-banking individuals. No court, no judge needed. Much more efficient way to shut down critics. We ain't need no people who delegitimize those in power.
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orwin
13 minutes ago
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Can we have a link? In France, at most you can get your account restricted (can't go into deficit and a sum is blocked) until the issue is resolved (99% because of unpaid taxes, sometimes the money is blocked by a judge until a judgement is passed). It's weird if the EU don't have a standard.
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LunaSea
8 minutes ago
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This sounds like bullshit.

The only debanking cases I've been aware of were the US putting pressure on judges from the International Court and a special appointee of the UN for Palestine.

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bethekidyouwant
48 minutes ago
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Yes, as the comments point out, he has 11 K followers and this is most likely a coincidence
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pydry
40 minutes ago
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I was about to agree with you until i noticed that the bank was backed by peter thiel.

It seems pretty in character and it's not like there is another more plausible reason being offered.

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gruez
35 minutes ago
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>It seems pretty in character and it's not like there is another more plausible reason being offered.

In character of what, that Thiel is a mustache twirling villain? Did other companies backed by him have a history of banning his critics?

>It seems pretty in character and it's not like there is another more plausible reason being offered.

By his own admission, neobanks have a history of banning clients arbitrarily without recourse. My guess it's run of the mill incompetence, not oppressing Thiel's critics.

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dust42
23 minutes ago
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Well, he destroyed Gawker. Not that I think they were good people. But it was definitely a personal vendetta.
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gruez
18 minutes ago
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Gawker was a well known website with 23 million visit per month, and a Wikipedia page. This guy has 44k subscribers and no Wikipedia page. It's a stretch to go from "Thiel had a vendetta against Gawker" to "Thiel had a vendetta against this guy".
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josephcsible
27 minutes ago
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> neobanks have a history of banning clients arbitrarily without recourse.

Not just neobanks, sadly. Even old-fashioned banks like Chase do so with alarming regularity.

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12_throw_away
9 minutes ago
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> In character of what, that Thiel is a mustache twirling villain?

I mean, yes? You don't amass billions of dollars with subtlety?

[1] https://www.inc.com/jeff-bercovici/peter-thiel-young-blood.h...

[2] https://theintercept.com/2017/02/22/how-peter-thiels-palanti...

(not that I think TFA here is very likely to be true)

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giraffe_lady
15 minutes ago
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> In character of what, that Thiel is a mustache twirling villain?

Well, yes, exactly. Sorry it's that simple & unsatisfying but it absolutely is.

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pixl97
23 minutes ago
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>hat Thiel is a mustache twirling villain?

I mean it's pretty common these days to see that billionaires can be thin skinned little twerps that hold a vendetta. Elon Musk is the biggest example of one that shows up and talks shit when someone tries to hurt his feefees.

Now, if you're powerful but not quite as dumb as Elon can be socially, you're not going to do the work yourself. You'll have a social media management team that takes care of the work for you.

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josephcsible
34 minutes ago
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I wish more countries had an equivalent to https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/08/12/2025-15... that would make what's being described here illegal.
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ThePowerOfFuet
1 hour ago
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bigwheels
49 minutes ago
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Since it's in French, here's the translation:

> They are lying to you. They keep repeating that "it's your money". It's false. It’s only a temporary access right that the system can take away from you with one click.

> I dared to criticize Palantir. A few days later, @getqonto deactivated my card, closed my account and blocked my funds. Without a word. I was erased, and I don’t believe in coincidences.

> When a "French unicorn" is funded by Peter Thiel’s millions, freedom of speech becomes a risk. Who really holds the switch to your life?

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