Single bone in Spain offers first direct evidence of Hannibal's war elephants
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Starman_Jones
41 minutes ago
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Worth noting that these would have been North African elephants, a now-extinct subspecies. It is not as tall as the modern African elephant - 2.5m at the shoulder, as compared to 3 to 3.5m for African elephants. A large warhorse might measure 1.5m tall, for comparison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_African_elephant

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Mordisquitos
28 minutes ago
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It is my understanding that Asian elephants are easier to tame by humans than African elephants, which is evident just by seeing how elephants are used in parts of Asia and how they are used (not) in Africa. Also circus elephants, when they were still common, would always be Asian elephants and not African ones. The reason I'm pointing this out is that I wonder whether the North African subspecies was more amenable to taming than still extant subspecies of the African elephant.
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rightbyte
25 minutes ago
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> A large warhorse might measure 1.5m tall, for comparison.

By sadle hight not at ear top hight, right?

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Insanity
34 minutes ago
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This month I read "Carthage Must Be Destroyed" (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10133950-carthage-must-b...), which dives deep into Hannibal's war against Rome (and the other punic wars).

I highly recommend reading about what happened from the Carthaginian perspective instead of the typical Roman perspective.

There's also some elaboration on the usage of elephants, the feasibility of of this, and how ultimately ineffective it was for war. (It was great for scaring the enemy, but the issue is they indiscriminately hurt both armies).

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AdmiralAsshat
38 minutes ago
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Terror Lake salutes Hannibal crossing the alps
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L2007W
1 hour ago
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Herodotus wrote of fire breathing ants in Egypt.
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RupertSalt
52 minutes ago
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He was referring to his mother’s sisters.

Misinterpreted all the time. Very similar terms in the Greek sources.

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keeganpoppen
1 hour ago
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score yet another win for the stories of antiquity being more right than wrong.
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bluGill
52 minutes ago
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I don't think anyone doubted the story. The details might be questionable, but the basics that he tried to fight with elephants is highly likely. We have plenty of sources for War Elephants in his time, so the idea that he didn't have them would be the larger surprise if someone could prove that.
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SketchySeaBeast
1 hour ago
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I think it would be more accurate to say "based upon true events".
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