The world heard JD Vance being booed at the Olympics. Except for viewers in USA
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blell
1 hour ago
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> The real risk for American broadcasters is not that dissent will be visible. It is that audiences will start assuming anything they do not show is being hidden

Kinda daft not to assume this has been the case for a long time already

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Twirrim
1 hour ago
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The opening ceremony for the London 2012 Olympics included a celebration of the National Health Service, which got mysteriously cut from the broadcast in the US, at a time when there was a bunch of fuss over Obamacare that had come into effect a year or two before.

Was hard not to imagine that was a deliberate choice.

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atoav
41 minutes ago
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Well the "no censorship!"-crowd in rhe US has been strangly focused on the censorship of racists, bigots and nazis. I don't think they consider censorship that benefits the Neo-feudalist lords as censorship.
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dboreham
1 hour ago
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Drug companies and insurers are big advertisers.
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alextingle
50 minutes ago
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That's insane.
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wtcactus
40 minutes ago
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So, due to US ideological propaganda, US media censored the part where the British do their ideological propaganda bit?

Well, at least the censorship was not paid by tax payer money… unlike the propaganda bit by the British, that was fully paid by taxpayer money.

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giacomoforte
26 minutes ago
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The NHS is a bit like the NRA in the US. Politicians and rich folk would ideally do away with it, but they cannot, so they have to play lip service to gain favour with the public.

So its not propaganda in the way you are thinking of.

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rippeltippel
1 hour ago
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> audiences will start assuming anything they do not show is being hidden

Will they? Possibly a portion of them, but I doubt they'll be the majority.

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runjake
1 hour ago
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I’m a viewer in the USA and I heard the boos. They didn’t sound edited out. What did I do wrong?
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seanmcdirmid
1 hour ago
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You aren’t one of the few Americans who watched the opening ceremony on over the air NBC.
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CoolGuySteve
23 minutes ago
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I honestly think the way they mix their audio is so the stadium noise gets turned down whenever the announcer talks and the American announcers just never shut the fuck up no matter how inane they might be.
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treetalker
1 hour ago
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CrzyLngPwd
48 minutes ago
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How very DPRK of them.
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wolfi1
1 hour ago
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my question is more technical: how did the blot out the booing? and: how live was it in the US? from the Academy Awards we know that they have a 5s delay (following the Michael Moore incident), but what is it with olympics broadcast?
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ralph84
17 minutes ago
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The audio engineers are monitoring multiple mics (for an event of this magnitude probably dozens) and increasing or decreasing volume on them in real time for the mix that goes on the air. Standard for any sports broadcast.
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sparrc
1 hour ago
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While they do show it live, it's in the middle of the workday, so almost everyone in the USA will have watched it delayed by many hours at "prime time", aka around 8pm local time in each zone.

That being said, I'm in the US and I heard boos on the delayed broadcast.

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agjmills
25 minutes ago
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Oddly I watched it live on the Eurosport broadcast and didn’t hear any noticeable booing
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wolfi1
1 hour ago
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as I unterstand the boos were blotted out only on the NBC broadcast, did you watch it on NBC?
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kkarpkkarp
1 hour ago
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Just checked what Moore has done and found that quote of him (about Bush):

> “we live in fictitious times with a fictitious president”

it was 2003, but oh, dear Michael, if only you knew what the future would be like...

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wolfi1
1 hour ago
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it was his Oscar for Bowling for Columbine
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zkmon
52 minutes ago
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Some USA (and western) viewers even believe that Putin can't speak, because they never saw him speaking.
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cadamsdotcom
48 minutes ago
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Citation needed.. really sorry to say it because there are plenty of things to say about the current US administration.

It feels like people inventing this story, farming for followers on socials by manufacturing outrage. And a close read of the article will uncover that it was denied by the networks.

This needs a deeper dig before opinions be formed - especially given the vehement denials of manipulation by the broadcasters.

But until then, citation needed.

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RedShift1
1 hour ago
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These american news companies are so goddamn spineless.
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nielsbot
1 hour ago
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money is on the line
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general1465
15 minutes ago
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Short term gain for long term loss
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MaxPock
1 hour ago
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Looks like Americans are adopting Chinese censorship methods. You won't see it thus it never happened.
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padjo
1 hour ago
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This website is one of the biggest culprits
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whilenot-dev
57 minutes ago
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Care to elaborate?

I have showdead set to yes, and while so some articles get a gray color and an occasionally [flagged] tag, everything is still searchable[0]. The only form of censorship is the ordering in the news list, but I could pick any other list[1] if I wanted to.

[0]: https://hn.algolia.com/

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/lists

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padjo
33 minutes ago
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This thread will immediately disappear off the front page once some Americans wake up.
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atoav
23 minutes ago
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There we go, it is flagged.
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blurbleblurble
1 hour ago
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No kidding
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pstuart
1 hour ago
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And Stalinist tactics in removing and erasing memorials and documents that contains subjects they don't like, e.g.,

  * https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/attacks-history-timeline-trump-administration/
  * https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-admin-removes-memorial-honoring-people-enslaved-george/story?id=129472615
  * https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-trump-administration-is-erasing-american-history-told-by-public-lands-and-waters/
And so on...
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whateveracct
1 hour ago
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trumpism
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huijzer
58 minutes ago
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So North Korea, China, America, Russia and basically all other countries have propaganda, and Europe doesn’t? I live in Europe and think we do. Not everything that is in the news is true.
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smcl
52 minutes ago
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Europe doesn’t bill itself as “the land of the free” and doesn’t proudly tout itself as having free speech above all else no matter the cost. So famously fascist symbols - like the swastika/hakenkreuz among other things - are banned a few places, it may be controversial but it’s not a dirty little secret or anything like that
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huijzer
46 minutes ago
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Updated comment to make argument clearer
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atoav
32 minutes ago
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"Your head is on fire!"

"So other heads are also flamable. Do you think your head isn't?"

Something potentially happening elsewhere doesn't invalidate it being pointed out. In fact if Von der Leyen got booed in China and a Geeman broadcaster muted it, I would also like to know what was ommited.

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sizzleflip5000
39 minutes ago
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People in the US heard the boos, as evidenced by the comments and others posting about it. All politicians get booed. But how many? And who controls the mics and the editing?

More anti-American propaganda on HN. Why does this keep happening? This is not news, nor is it relevant for HN.

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atoav
35 minutes ago
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Hackers care about the truth. I don't think many here would consider the censorship of a US head of state being inherently pro-US (or the criticism of said censorship to be anti-US).

But feel free to elaborate why you feel wanting the US population to be able to see how their political leadership is perceived elsewhere is "anti-US" — cause I would describe it as the exact opposite.

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