Brutalist Southbank Centre Listed
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louthy
34 minutes ago
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It’s a magnificent space. If you just judge it purely on the concrete you may have a different opinion, but if you’re there to consume the various forms of art performed on the Southbank, then the space really comes alive. I’m glad it’s listed.

I happen to love brutalist architecture, but in the uk it can sometimes not work (grey rainy days don’t bring out the best of the concrete). However, I think in this case it really works.

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jstanley
23 minutes ago
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But it's the concrete that has been listed and not the various forms of art performed there.
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louthy
22 minutes ago
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I mean it works as intended. It’s an art centre that succeeds in hosting art extremely well. Therefore, its functionally good architecture (if not visually appealing to everyone).
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daverol
9 minutes ago
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eigenspace
43 minutes ago
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Absolutely hideous, alienating, and inhuman. Not everything in cities needs to very preserved.
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risoalin
9 minutes ago
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It is beautiful. Please don't be so bigotedly anti-concrete.
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jjmarr
33 minutes ago
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I don't care what people say. I love brutalist architecture. I love the exposed concrete forms. I love the giant concrete turkey in Toronto and plan to one day visit the UK to see the Barbican.

Concrete is strong and imposing and emotional. It feels authoritative and cold. A warm building feels like it has deliberately undermined its own status to feel welcoming and feels fake. A brutalist building doesn't lie. It is a massive concrete edifice containing a large space within.

It also weathers in distinctive ways. The water stains are like seniority, telling me the building has and will last forever. A big glass skyscraper feels replaceable and new, like it's disposable and will be replaced in a few years.

I get a lot of hate for this but one of the benefits of a concrete house is the ability to throw stones.

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kolektiv
27 minutes ago
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No I'm with you. There's an honest and an intent to it which I've always loved - plus an intent to do more with less in terms of form. No finicky detail to hide tricky areas, no taking of advantage of material to distract the eye - it stands or falls on form and function alone. I get why some may not like it, but for me it's a pure form of architecture. It's the building equivalent of a Dieter Rams, or a mid-period Olivetti. Beautiful.
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arethuza
10 minutes ago
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Brutalist architecture certainly has an emotional impact for me - mostly horror.

On a happy note, the incredibly ugly Argyle House in Edinburgh is going to be demolished soon - how anyone thought it was a good idea to build such a thing in that location is a mystery (its evil twin in the form of New St Andrews House having been demolished years ago).

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ggm
14 minutes ago
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It's a great shame to me that the museum of London left the barbican. It made visiting the site and the building work well contextually. Roman London wall. History on tap, and a brutalist vision.

The concert hall is good too.

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mrec
3 minutes ago
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I was sorely tempted to downvote this for egregious wrongheadedness, but that last line is pure gold. Kudos.
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nateguchi
37 minutes ago
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Great news, surprised it's taken this long
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globular-toast
46 minutes ago
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Meanwhile, Anglia Square in Norwich, which looks basically the same, is being demolished.

Annoyingly, if you search for Anglia Square, most of the pictures are actually of adjacent Sovereign House. This is what I'm talking about: https://www.edp24.co.uk/resources/images/19194299.jpg/

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jansper39
6 minutes ago
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The car park there has been falling down on it's own for years and the office spaces vacant for decades.

If they could knock the flyover down too it would be a boon in my opinion.

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jimnotgym
26 minutes ago
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Love it or loath it, was listing it necessary? Was it in danger of being knocked down?

Be prepared for every little bit of building work to take twice as long and cost twice as much now. The hands of future users are firmly bound.

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smallnix
10 minutes ago
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> Was it in danger of being knocked down?

Abolishing the listings mechanism in favor of an ad-hoc protection mechanism (when destruction is imminent) seems worse.

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