What's the difference between a "disc" and a "disk"? (2023)
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bmacho
46 minutes ago
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> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).

> For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disk#Usage_notes

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sandworm101
30 minutes ago
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Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.
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oneplane
22 minutes ago
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When they shrank the disc it just became minidisc ;-) But that was technically MO, not just optical. And: it was in a cartridge so I suppose they really should have called it minidisk.
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irishcoffee
21 minutes ago
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> Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.

How old are you? Nothing you said is accurate.

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sandworm101
1 minute ago
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Lol. Old enough to remember when disks were three-dimensional, when you might need more than one hand to carry them. When they shrank we regularly called the newer/small model a diskette.

From wikipedia: >> A floppy disk, diskette, or floppy diskette is a type of disk storage made from a thin, flexible disk coated with a magnetic storage medium. It is enclosed in a square or nearly square plastic shell lined with fabric to help remove dust from the spinning disk.

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sedatk
49 minutes ago
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The term "disc" for storage predates optical media. "Disc" was the common spelling for a disk (like a floppy disk) on British 8-bit computers like Amstrad CPC or Sinclair Spectrum.[1][2]

It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]

I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.

[1] Kempston Disc Interface manual: https://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Peripherals/Disc%20I...

[2] Amstrad Disc Drive Interface manual: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/3/3f/DDI-1_User_Manual.pdf

[3] Etymonline entry for "disk": https://www.etymonline.com/word/disk

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Doctor_Fegg
47 minutes ago
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Disk was already the standard spelling in the UK by 1984 (in a computing context), just as program was used in preference to programme. But Amstrad mistyped it as disc on the plastic mouldings for their first CPC, and were too cheap to change them. Consequently CPC 3in disks were always called discs even into the 90s.
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sedatk
39 minutes ago
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Did Acorn also misspell it in BBC Micro manual in 1984?

https://archive.org/details/BBCUG/page/n19/mode/2up?q=disc

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MarkusQ
56 minutes ago
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This is goofy. The difference was originally regional (US/UK), and which caught on depended on which product dominated which sub-market. There's no semantic difference.
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innocentoldguy
49 minutes ago
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Philips is the company that came up with the term "Compact Disc" for CDs, so we can blame them for goofing up the regional spellings and making the world more confusing.

I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.

The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D

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fainpul
1 hour ago
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And where is the "drive" in an SSD?

Trying to explain arbitrary words with logic always fails.

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actionfromafar
21 minutes ago
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Same as the Alcubierre drive! ;)
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coffee--
1 hour ago
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There was a subculture communicating on FIDOnet about collecting AOL installation media (3.5" disks) and reusing them. Somehow we ended up coining the term "bisk" to refer to AOL's given-away media, and much sadness was had when they moved to CDs.

So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.

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OhMeadhbh
48 minutes ago
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Tron, if I remember correctly, had DISCS instead of DISKS. And if modern CPUs are RISCy, then maybe modern Intel architecture CPUs are Risky.
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bonesss
1 hour ago
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The last letter.

[Did I pass the interview? No? Understandable.]

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addaon
28 minutes ago
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Always thought that “disc” was the original word for an object of a certain shape. As they evolved for computer storage, we got smaller diskettes… which were abbreviated to disks.
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rikthevik
1 hour ago
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A disc looks like a disc, and a disk doesn't look like a disc.
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delichon
40 minutes ago
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  sceptic - skeptic
  mollusc - mollusk
  celt - kelt
  cabob - kabob
  disc - disk
Corporate wants you to find the difference.
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9rx
32 minutes ago
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sceptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense optically.

skeptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense magnetically.

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asdfman123
32 minutes ago
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As a quick and dirty heuristic: the C in disc is for CD (or other optical media).
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_wire_
15 minutes ago
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A disk is any planar circular shape.

A disc is a disk-shaped object, such as in the form of a plastic dingus: Frisbee flying disc.

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gaigalas
1 hour ago
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Apple, the etymology company.
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OhMeadhbh
47 minutes ago
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They certainly do have bugs.

[Edit. Sorry, misread your comment as saying "entomology."]

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dboreham
17 minutes ago
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Presumably this apple page is someone's idea of an April fool, date notwithstanding.

"Disc" is the correct spelling of the flat circular thing.

"Disk" was invented by someone in the 1980s either as an attempt at a trade name, or because they couldn't spell.

Then other people continued the mis spelling.

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irishcoffee
19 minutes ago
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Does anyone have a spate tire? My tyre popped, probably because someone jammed a 'y' in the middle.
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adamdonahue
53 minutes ago
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So a floppy disk has a disc inside?
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KwanEsq
49 minutes ago
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No because they weren't optical, they were magnetic.
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onraglanroad
40 minutes ago
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Yes it did. They were magnetic disks. And they were floppy. The outer case of a 3.5" was solid but just rip it open and you can see the disk itself is floppy.

Edit: oh right, you're talking about the different spellings. Those were entirely arbitrary. We mixed between the two.

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irishcoffee
49 minutes ago
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Sure does.
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dTal
1 hour ago
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Disc = round part visible

Disk = round part hidden or no round part

Have I got it!?

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Someone
1 hour ago
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I think their primary difference is disc = optical, disk = magnetic. That’s what they mention first.

All of that “in the UK”.

Looking at the store, they’re using “SSD Storage” for SSD.

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Symbiote
1 hour ago
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The British spelling was used by Philips when they launched the Compact Disc with Sony.

Disk was used by American companies inventing hard disks, floppy disks etc.

British software often used "disc" for both, e.g. RISC OS on Acorn/ARM/Raspberry Pi [1].

[1] https://arcwiki.org.uk/index.php/RISC_OS_3 (see screenshot)

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HPsquared
36 minutes ago
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SSD could stand for "SSD Storage Device".

Bring back recursive acronyms!

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Wowfunhappy
1 hour ago
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SSD, of course, stands for Solid State Dis[c,k]...
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9rx
36 minutes ago
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Solid State Drive, usually, but when it comes to language anything goes.
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Gualdrapo
55 minutes ago
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When I was much more active in Reddit did one time a meme for r/peloton of Froome yelling at disc brakes - but wrote it as "Old man yells at disk brakes".

Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.

But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"

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dheera
58 minutes ago
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What about bloc vs block
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ChrisArchitect
1 hour ago
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"Disks" as in floppy disks, are removable also. Some weird seperation choices in this 'article'.
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dcminter
1 hour ago
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Plus a common alternative to "hard drive" was "hard disk."

My late father never quite got out of the habit of calling it the "Winchester" - itself a nickname for a specific IBM drive model.

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onraglanroad
36 minutes ago
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More modern hard disks included the drive mechanism in one unit.

They used to be separate, so you would mount the hard disk on the drive to make it accessible.

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dcminter
6 minutes ago
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Yeah, we used to have a couple of the removable phoenix platters knocking around.

Of course now everything tends to be solid state even terms like "drive" are becoming less common.

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ghurtado
1 hour ago
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Kinda surprising that the article doesn't mention the actual origin of the words:

"Disc" comes from "discus" (the plate thrown in the Olympics)

"Disk" comes from "diskette" (French for "small disc")

I probably just outed myself as a boomer assuming that was common knowledge.

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forty
57 minutes ago
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Disquette*

In French we say disque for both. it's pronounced the same as disk and disc.

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rf15
1 hour ago
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You are (rightfully) saying that they semantically mean kinda the same thing. That doesn't neatly fit any branding guideline though, I'm sorry.
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bitwize
58 minutes ago
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Both versions are disque in French. (presumably disquette for "diskette") Don't blame the French for this.

The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.

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DonHopkins
57 minutes ago
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Pff! Disc comes from Disco!
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