Discord Distances Itself from Peter Thiel's Palantir Age Verification Firm
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5 hours ago
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| kotaku.com
| HN
rockskon
1 hour ago
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"Discord Distances itself from Peter Thiel's Palantir Age Verification Firm" means jack shit if they're still doing business with them.

And Discord has approached this in such a monstrously awful way that I don't know what they could possibly say at this point to make me believe them.

I fully expect Discord will buddy-buddy right back up with some other Thiel-affiliated company if there is a separation if not go right back to them once the heat dies down.

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deaux
2 hours ago
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Article title, which was a lot clearer than this one: "Discord Distances Itself From Age Verification Firm After Ties To Palantir’s Peter Thiel Surface"

Not sure why you changed it but it makes quite the difference to the meaning.

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mhitza
1 hour ago
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That's too long of a title for a HN submission, i think.
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mvdtnz
1 hour ago
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Ok but this title is literally fake news.
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input_sh
1 hour ago
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Feel free to suggest a better one that can fit into 80 characters!
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stavros
56 minutes ago
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"Discord Distances Itself From Age Verification Firm After Palantir ties"?
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OutOfHere
1 hour ago
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The risk in effect is that every message sent on Discord will make its way to Palantir with copy of your ID. This is not a risk that any user should accept. Discord fooled its users once, and it should not be trusted to not fool them again.
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anonymous_user9
2 hours ago
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Notably, by doing this Discord lied in their initial announcement. They originally said [1] that all processing would be on-device, but that's not true for users subject to this "experiment".

1: https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-...

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Morromist
2 hours ago
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As Argento Dragone said in the Kotaku comments:

"Face scanning is used to do ID verification on your device and then deleted immediately."

"By immediately I mean we send it to k-ID who said that's what they do."

"By that I mean they partnered with Persona to do the actual verification."

"Persona clarified that by 'immediately' they mean 'after seven days.'"

"And given their ties to Palantir, it's probably fine. You trust us, right?"

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Hawxy
24 minutes ago
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> "By immediately I mean we send it to k-ID who said that's what they do."

People have already validated this fyi. When k-ID was first added you could send a bogus age result to discord from your local device, which probably still works. There's no evidence your facial scans leave the device.

> "By that I mean they partnered with Persona to do the actual verification."

Which isn't true, it was a UK-only experiment being run for a small subset of users, which has now been discontinued.

I get people are outraged, but this is sensationalism at best.

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jacquesm
1 minute ago
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Trust is fragile.
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tjpnz
1 hour ago
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Is this the same Peter Thiel who gives lectures on Greta Thunberg being the literal anti-christ?
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indubioprorubik
38 minutes ago
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Well, she openly supports islamo-supremacists and facists as long as they have the right skin color.

If you know the middle east, just a little bit and are not just busy hating jews, you can look up the minority statistics in the whole surrounding areas- and man did these guys murder and send fleeing basically everyone not excactly them. Alawites, Copts, Jews, Druse, Yesidi- currently the curds. The middle east has the longest ongoing genocide and its invisible, cause the guys doing it have a suntan- and spoilers- it aint the jews.

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cultofmetatron
6 minutes ago
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> Well, she openly supports islamo-supremacists and facists as long as they have the right skin color.

yea... I'm gonna call bullshit on that.

> are not just busy hating jews,

ah there we go. the standard strawmen dogwhistle. we stopped bying it sometime after you all called doctors without boreders, amnesty international and the ICC antisemetic. let me guess, you support zionism and the genocide in palestine? I bet in backrooms you refer to them as human animals too right?

sorry mate, we ain't fallin for it.

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smashah
16 minutes ago
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"openly supports islamo-supremacists and facists"

You must misunderstand what Anti-christ behaviour looks like. Antichrist behaviour is having one of your agents organize a worldwide cabal of child rapists and baby-organ eaters just so one day they can all be blackmailed into enabling the mass industrial holocausting of tens of thousands of other children in an open air prison - dropping thermobaric bombs onto schools so as to gas the victims of your demonic holocaust upon them .... oh wait turn them into a fine mist... and then attempting to shapeshift into members of a historically oppressed abrahamic monotheistic (antichrist followers - zs - are literal false-idol worshippers) faith so innocent anti-zionist Jewish people get framed for your demonic babybloodletting.

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mvdtnz
1 hour ago
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Not sure why you're being down voted but the answer is yes, it is the same Peter Thiel who gives lectures on Greta Thunberg being the literal anti-christ and if the down voters think you might be exaggerating or misleading them I encourage them to search this up.

Edit - I searched to refresh myself, ok he didn't say she was the literal antichrist. He said she's literally a legionnaire for the literal antichrist. I cannot stress enough that he was very clear that he was not using these terms figuratively, I mean "literal" in the literal sense of the term.

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stavros
55 minutes ago
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Yeah, he definitely has gone off the rails lately with all the talk about the antichrist being a literal existing being with emissaries on earth. I haven't been watching his stuff but the little I've seen was unhinged.
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Hikikomori
44 minutes ago
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Lately?

"I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible."

He is just executing on this, and some of religious technocratic nonsense beliefs just leaked a bit.

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thinkingemote
42 minutes ago
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"yes I'm right. Not sure why you are being downvoted. Do your own research"

Does research and now admits that he wasn't right, and understands why he and others were being down voted and hopefully learns from this and moves on.

Kudos for the edit and honesty: it's rare to see learning actually happen in fiery threads! I've been in your shoes and learning and change is possible.

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delaminator
1 hour ago
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Do you just read the headlines because that isn't what he said.

He said that people like Greta are legionnaires of the Antichrist. Which is not "Greta is the literal anti-christ".

Do you have any idea of the context of what the whole point was? If not, perhaps you should find out before you talk rubbish.

Do you know what he means by "Antichrist" or are you taking the least generous interpretation you can because you don't like the man.

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stavros
47 minutes ago
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If someone is saying that there are literal actuql existing legionnaires of the literal actual existing antichrist, and X person is one of them, it's not the "X person is one of them" part that I have an issue with.
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konradb
1 hour ago
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Maybe you can help me out, I listened to him talk about this and I couldn't make head-nor-tail of what he was trying to say. It feels like he's so tied up in concepts and metaphors and similes and allegories it's impossible to tell specifically what he is asserting to be true. If you could explain to me like I was five I'd be grateful. Not looking for an argument.
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toofy
22 minutes ago
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so he said she’s the literal legionnaire of the antichrist?

that doesn’t really sound a whole lot better.

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Hikikomori
42 minutes ago
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Are you one of those that say that trump is doing 5d chess?
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ThatMedicIsASpy
1 hour ago
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You are seeing quotes where there are none.

Every billionaire has massive mental health issues.

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yesbut
55 minutes ago
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Nobody believes that.
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PostOnce
1 hour ago
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I very hesitantly used discord occasionally because some projects I wanted to keep up with moved there

I gave up a few times since I kept getting autobanned by a broken algorithm (i.e., based on my ip or phone number, not anything I'd said) until I contacted their devs and they manually fixed it.

Obviously, I am never going to consider using discord again after this shit-tsunami. Back to irc and signal groups.

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gethly
2 hours ago
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Too late. Trust is gone.
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globalnode
1 hour ago
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Not trusting should be you're default stance. Then you can be pleasantly surprised when they do the right thing.
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KingMob
19 minutes ago
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Oh, the irony of Peter Thiel being involved in age verification, after lunching with Epstein (post-conviction).
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smashah
23 minutes ago
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"Distances itself" lol what does that even mean? Did they step back from the admin console or something?
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