NanoClaw Moved from Apple Containers to Docker
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botusaurus
1 hour ago
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> But NanoClaw isn't just my personal project anymore. Thousands of people are using it. People are running production workloads on it. Businesses are building on it. There's a real community now.

as OpenClaw and now NanoClaw became "enterprise", now we need a new FemtoClaw to pick up the indie/boutique place

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Tt6000
1 hour ago
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How is this "becoming enterprise"? If anything it now defaults to millions of Linux users being able to access it
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andai
59 minutes ago
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arcanemachiner
1 hour ago
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Well, there was Picoclaw, but I think it was renamed to Clawlet.
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stavros
1 hour ago
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For my version of the AI assistant, I used a Docker container and Unix permissions:

https://github.com/skorokithakis/stavrobot

All plugins run in one Docker container, but they're isolated from each other by different *nix users, so they can't read each other's files. That's much more lightweight, and you don't have to run one container per plugin.

Crucially, plugins can't read each other's secrets or modify each other's code. I even have a plugin configuration webpage that doesn't go through an LLM, so the LLM never sees your secrets if you don't want to.

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amelius
1 hour ago
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Putting these NanoClowns inside a container will not protect you from all kinds of safety hazards.
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andai
57 minutes ago
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That's the fun part! You spend all day hardening it... run it in docker in a vm on a separate machine. And then you hook it up to your gmail and give it unrestricted internet access :)
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arcanemachiner
1 hour ago
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Wearing a seatbelt will not protect you from all kinds of car accidents.
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amelius
55 minutes ago
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Yes. That's why you don't put a Clown behind the steering wheel.
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bdcravens
6 minutes ago
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Tesla Robotaxi says hold my beer
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InsideOutSanta
49 minutes ago
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Wearing a helmet will not protect you from all injuries caused by jumping off a cliff.

Point is, don't jump off a cliff.

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troupo
28 minutes ago
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The nature of these tools is that you tell them not to jump off a cliff, so they ride the bicycle over it. Or a car. Or "you're completely right. I assumed it was possible to fly". Or...
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ericbuildsio
20 minutes ago
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Sensible, this broadens our hosting options.
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benatkin
1 hour ago
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So they're making it use OCI images? Cool. Hopefully there will be good support for Podman.
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funkaster
1 hour ago
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apple containers also run on OCI images: https://github.com/apple/container?tab=readme-ov-file#contai...

> The tool consumes and produces OCI-compatible container images...

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brcmthrowaway
1 hour ago
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Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc
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stavros
1 hour ago
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They're "always" running, so they can notify you out of the blue, without you having to initiate a conversation. It's really nice UX to get a message from my assistant saying "hey, it's time to leave for the gym, and don't forget the supermarket bag because you're picking up milk on the way back, as you've run out".
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netsharc
17 minutes ago
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Hmm, Google Gemini has access to my Google Tasks and can set reminders. It's also asked me if I want it to check something at "tomorrow 9am", and when I said yes, it managed to do that.
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caminante
6 minutes ago
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But have you had consistently good experience with Google Gemini and Google apps? Or read the mixed reviews?

For me, Gemini has been hit or miss and somehow less useful than Assistant was 2+ years ago.

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stavros
13 minutes ago
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Yeah, that's kind of like it. Agents just have many many more integrations, so they can do many more things. For example, it knows all my preferences, and can search for flights and say things like "this one is more expensive, but skipping the morning wakeup is worth the $20".
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dimitri-vs
58 minutes ago
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How would it know you've ran out of milk?
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stavros
50 minutes ago
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I told it when I noticed. I made a little pendant with a mic I can speak into and it goes to the bot.
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LeafItAlone
47 minutes ago
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I would love to hear more about this!
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stavros
33 minutes ago
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I haven't written it up yet but the repo is here:

It's just a MEMS mic, a battery, and an ESP32, very simple but it works amazingly well. I wrote a companion Android app for it and it works extremely reliably!

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brcmthrowaway
44 minutes ago
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How do people afford this?
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andoando
3 minutes ago
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Claude max $100 is way more usage than I need. And yeah its not running all the time, just has a heartbeat file telling it how to check something and run
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stavros
32 minutes ago
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A subscription, really. It doesn't actually run all the time, it just has a cron job that makes it feel that way.
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dimitri-vs
56 minutes ago
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It's for people that don't know how or don't want to be bothered with setting up a messenger integration and a scheduler.
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boywitharupee
42 minutes ago
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they have a watchdog loop, it runs periodically
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saberience
42 minutes ago
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There is no special sauce. They are claude or codex in a loop. The loop is facilitated by basic cron jobs. That's it.

Ai Agent as it has been for months, plus skills, plus a cron job to prompt it to do things every 20 minutes or 2 hours or however often you want.

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john_alan
27 minutes ago
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Use containers, Docker is cancer.
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