Motorola GrapheneOS devices will be bootloader unlockable/relockable
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Zak
5 minutes ago
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I'm glad to hear that. That means these devices will be a popular target, perhaps the popular target for alternative operating systems both Android-based and non-Android Linux.
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t1234s
1 minute ago
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With Motorola being owned by the Chinese company Lenovo can these new devices be used in secure environments? I remember when Lenovo took over making ThinkPads they were banned in some secure environments because of Lenovo links to CCP.
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keerthiko
21 minutes ago
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Does anyone know where I can read more about which devices will be supported? GrapheneOS website devices FAQ doesn't list any Motorola devices, and the press release doesn't have much either.
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wolvoleo
14 minutes ago
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There's no details yet, but I was reading it won't likely emerge until 2027 so ostensibly these will be models that are yet to be announced. Might even be models dedicated to grapheneos (and other open source roms as they mentioned here)
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vbezhenar
9 minutes ago
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As I understand that situation, GrapheneOS developers are super picky about hardware they want to support. So out of all android phones they decided to support only Google Pixel because only these phones provide good enough hardware support for security features they want to provide.

So likely no existing Motorola phones are good enough and only new ones, developed in collaboration with GrapheneOS developers, will be suitable.

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BLKNSLVR
5 minutes ago
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I'm pretty sure strcat was saying on a previous thread that it will only be future models, so nothing in their current line up in guaranteed to be compatible.
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MYEUHD
15 minutes ago
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Future Motorola devices (or maybe a subset of them?) will support GrapheneOS

> We're collaborating on future devices

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116159602850585685

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catlikesshrimp
11 minutes ago
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This project is in hype stage. No work seems to have been done, yet.

Samsung had something as ambitious years ago, but it went nowhere https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-promised-make-old-pho...

Stay tuned

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lordofgibbons
6 minutes ago
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Given that Google has said they'll be delaying source code release for Android to every X months intervals (iirc), how is GrapheneOS planning to handle security updates? Will they just be Google's binary blobs?
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LoganDark
1 minute ago
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Do we know if there there be Widevine L1 keys that aren't deleted on unlock? (Certain phones restore access to L1 on bootloader relock, as long as AVB passes, including with custom keys.)
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ChrisArchitect
18 minutes ago
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Related:

Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47214645

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jMyles
46 minutes ago
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Even though there doesn't seem to be huge mainstream consumer demand for this (although I actually question how well consumer demand for privacy and customization can ever be ascertained when the price signals are corrupted by a market where the winning players are essentially chosen by the state, as is arguably the case with both TSMC and Qualcomm), it still feels like the world simply couldn't go on with both iOS and Android become caged, cheapened, fragile shadows of the visions we once had for them (particularly AOSP).
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dietr1ch
16 minutes ago
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I think we can only expect the demand for privacy to grow into the future given that people tracking in a trenchcoat schemes are popping up everywhere through governmental and private efforts into data harvesting and control.
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