TCXO Failure Analysis
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by zdw
3 days ago
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myrmidon
28 minutes ago
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On the origin of OXCO (for oven controlled crystal oscillator):

The base abbreviation is "Xtal" (for crystal) and predates modern electronics by quite a bit (was already used before 1900 in geology etc). The author linking this to Xmas (indirectly, "Christ") via the the greek Chi (Χ) is very likely correct.

In electronics this weird abbreviation (X for crystal) is further helped by the fact that "C" is completely taken by "capacitor" (an even more important passive component).

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ACCount37
14 minutes ago
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Amusingly, "crystal oscillator" can be both "X" and "Y" in schematics.

"X" because "xtal", and "Y" because of the distinct shape of a tuning fork.

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ACCount37
19 minutes ago
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A lot of "exposed bonded die" packages caution against using ultrasonic cleaning.

This is especially true for TCXOs, which also have the entire loose crystal in them on top of the controller die, and for MEMS mics, which are designed to be sensitive to vibration. But it's also true for things like common CMOS image sensors, which are "exposed die", but not mechanically sensitive otherwise.

Bond wires that are hanging midair instead of being pinned in place by package epoxy don't vibe with ultrasonic cleaning methods.

The risks are usually small, mind. Which is why prototyping teams and repair shops often use ultrasonic cleaning regardless. But in actual mass manufacturing, you really don't want to risk that extra 1% failure rate. So you either ask the vendors for "safe" values and dance around those energies and frequencies, or avoid ultrasonics altogether.

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myself248
1 hour ago
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I've always been cautioned against ultrasonic cleaning of boards that have crystal oscillators, and indeed it's in most XO datasheets.

I've also heard that one shouldn't trim the leads of a through-hole XO before soldering it into the board, since the mechanical shock of the lead breaking can ring the whole package and similarly shake it apart. I'm curious if anyone here has seen that in practice!

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the__alchemist
55 minutes ago
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I went down this rabbit hole a few years ago, and couldn't find an actionable answer on if this is OK or not. Sounded like "No, you shouldn't", but almost every PCB I've designed (or used?) has at least one, and I know ultrasonic cleaning is a thing, so I'm not sure how to reconcile these.
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jacquesm
54 minutes ago
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Oh, that's a good one, I can see how that would put a lot of g's on the package. I think this will be a factor depending on the weight of the total assembly. If that weight is significant it will dampen the shockwave.
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jacquesm
52 minutes ago
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That's a very cute domain name. Thank you whoever wrote this up and posted it, I'm in the process of building something that has a crystal on it and I did not realize this was a risk.
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kentrf
1 hour ago
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Interesting writeup!

Today I learned about TCXO.

If anyone else are curious, that component cost about $2 per piece.

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the__alchemist
59 minutes ago
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Yea! Useful if you need precise timing under temp swings. I use them for UAS LoRa radios. Def more expensive than a normal XO!
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jacquesm
54 minutes ago
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But cheaper than OCXO and far less power consumption too. Also (much) less stable.
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galangalalgol
35 minutes ago
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Compensating for the temperature will never be as accurate as actually controlling it (O is for ovenized). I keep reading about chip scale atomic clocks coming down in price but I've yet to see them as the oscillator in anything mass produced.
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namibj
39 minutes ago
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The divide by two is to get the quartz small enough to fit that package.
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Neywiny
1 hour ago
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Can't comment on the wire bonding quality but yes you're not supposed to sonic wash anything with an oscillator. This includes ultra and mega sonic. I had always thought it was because you could damage the crystal or mems structures, so color me surprised to see this failure mode, though there still could be a shift in frequency that the scoping wasn't able to see.

I tried looking at an exemplar ECS tcxo datasheet and didn't see anything in there about washing which is surprising but it also doesn't say not to crush it with a hammer so maybe it was assumed. That's bad on them.

As for SMA to 0.1" headers: yes these are very cursed. But RF designers love putting SMAs for every connector on an eval board (power, enable, whatever) and those come in handy.

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