Anthropic sues to block Pentagon blacklisting over AI use restrictions
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| reuters.com
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astrashe2
1 hour ago
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I think the big problem is that this is more like a sanction, more than the government saying they don't want to do business with them. They government is saying that anyone they do business with can't do business with Anthropic.

So it's extremely important that they get an injunction that allows the cloud compute companies to continue to work them. I think they probably will, but it's really crazy that the government is actively trying to kill them off over this.

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SilverElfin
1 hour ago
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It’s not just the supply chain risk designation from the Department of defense. Trump then added that he would order all government agencies to stop doing business with them. Basically, if you do not cave to their ideology, you will be coerced through such unethical means.
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ticulatedspline
41 minutes ago
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While it's difficult to eschew all government money, given the current political climate it would be interesting to turn the tables so to speak: updating their ToS to disallow any use by the federal government

This would hand the federal govt to OpenAI and Google but would certainly be head-turning. Hard to say if it would pay off positively for them though.

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tiahura
9 minutes ago
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The government has near-absolute discretion over whom it contracts with, and no company has a constitutional right to be a federal vendor. Courts treat military technology decisions as core Commander-in-Chief functions subject to minimal judicial review, and the political question doctrine may bar second-guessing what the Secretary deems a security risk.

The supply chain risk statute grants broad, largely unreviewable national security discretion and doesn't require the threat to originate from a foreign adversary.

Finally, the First Amendment claim faces the problem that the government was responding not to abstract speech but to a concrete refusal to provide services on the military's terms, which courts are unlikely to treat as protected expression warranting judicial override of procurement choices.

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ChrisArchitect
29 minutes ago
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int32_64
53 minutes ago
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A pointless publicity stunt because of state secrets privilege that will lead to more extreme actions from the Trump admin against Anthropic like the DoJ pulling the trigger on a selectively prosecuted company ending copyright/hacking case for stealing all their training material.
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adrianN
1 hour ago
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My trust in the judicial system in the USA is so eroded that I could easily be convinced that this is just a PR move and they don’t expect to win anything that goes against Trump‘s wishes.
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mananaysiempre
52 minutes ago
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The judicial system aside, it was a deliberate legislative choice (in many countries, with the US being among the most enthusiastic) to allow the executive to unilaterally designate arbitrary entities to be bad. Every system of this nature eventually gets turned against people you yourself consider good. I don’t get the surprise, frankly.
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icegreentea2
22 minutes ago
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For what it's worth, it seems like the actual law that would be involved (so the deliberate legislative choice) does not allow Hegseth to do what he says he wants to do: https://www.justsecurity.org/132851/anthropic-supply-chain-r...

So it's not just that there's be a transfer of power to the executive (there is), there's also straight up executive overreach.

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UncleEntity
28 minutes ago
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Yeah, back during Trump's first term I was hoping Congress would rein in executive power a bunch as he is prone to do stuff like this, didn't turn out that way unfortunately...

Now the main constraint on executive power seems to be due process and habeas corpus.

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