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Ask HN: Why is my submission not visible if I am not logged in?

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1 day ago

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I posted an article earlier, but I just noticed when not logged in on another computer that it is as if I never posted it. It's also didn't seem to be indexed as you can't search for it.

It's not a dupe, its from a news website that is often posted on here (I discovered them through HN!), and is clearly pretty relevant to tech.

I am honestly fine if everyone just wanted to downvote it and remove it from HN, but at least can I just see that this happened? Am I missing something? Really not trying to complain about censorship (not trying to kid myself there), but more just a meta note. I feel like in the past I would see that it was flagged and removed, or a dupe or otherwise. Just at least tell me stuff like this isn't welcome here, you don't even need to give good reason!

the article I posted: https://www.404media.co/ai-is-african-intelligence-the-workers-who-train-ai-are-fighting-back/

this is the post itself, but it looks like only I can see it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47353019

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Bender

1 day ago

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[dead] 'AI Is African Intelligence': The Workers Who Train AI Are Fighting Back (404media.co)

404media.co is auto-dead and requires someone to vouch for it. If you turn on show-dead in your profile you will see most submissions of that site are [dead]. [1]

I vouched for it and it should be visible now.

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co

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beepbooptheory

1 day ago

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That is really wild to me! Had no idea they weren't in good standing like that on here, really associate HN with them in general. Thanks though either way. Not a big deal, thought it was good story but I guess not the right audience!

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dang

1 day ago

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It's because, for a long time, most of their content was behind a signup wall with no obvious workaround. I don't know if it still is or not. If it isn't, we can change it. In the meantime, users can always vouch for the articles that are readable and/or have workarounds.

See these links for the HN's general policy around paywalls:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

Btw, I took a quick look at the article and while it is interesting, I think the essay written by the man interviewed in the article is even more interesting: https://data-workers.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/The-Emot.... If you want, we could change the URL to that and re-up the post. Or, if you want, you could submit it separately and we could put it in the second-chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308), so it will get a random placement on HN's front page.

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beepbooptheory

1 day ago

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No no its ok! I am sure yall's system is what it is for good reason, this still kinds of turns me off I think from trying to participate in this particular way. If its worth it, I am sure someone else will do the steps. Thanks either way dang.

I do agree that essay is a better source here!

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asdefghyk

1 day ago

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I can see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47353019

If I am logged in I can see the link content. ALso can see it if I am not logged in. The post says it was posted 1 hour ago.