Marketing for Founders
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Oras
3 hours ago
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Posting a product on any of these sites will not have the same impact as it did before AI. Not because your product is not good, but because there is much more noise now.

This applies to social media posting, SEO, articles, you name it. AI has amplified the noise to the point where finding something useful is pretty hard now.

Building in public is and was always a fake trend. You see a few who made it a long time ago by posting their journey (personal choice), and then everyone jumps in to spam, which is back again to the noise, ending with a lack of value.

I feel for anyone trying to take a product to the market right now, while there are more tools to build, marketing has gotten a lot harder, consumers are struggling financially, and companies are trying to stay afloat due to a lack of growth.

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thorio
3 hours ago
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True story, yesterday I tried to get some feedback from an industry relevant subreddit for a real estate quick check calculation tool (automatically extracts listing data into calculation and enables sharing investment ideas). The pure mention of AI brought up a whole crowd of fed up bullies that talked it down as vibecoding trash - which it really isn't. All those places are flooded.
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wibbily
4 hours ago
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An open letter: if you market your product by spamming Reddit et al. with fake stories (as this guide suggests), we:

1. can all tell

2. will not use your product

Please stop polluting the global commons

Signed everyone <3

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philipp-gayret
4 hours ago
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I don't condone it but the best marketing I've ever seen and which gets to the top of Reddit every week is a company that runs a paid IQ test website. They post some type of outrage bait and it always gets traction. Practically nobody in the comments can tell; they're all focused on how some imaginary character in an image is boasting about an IQ score of 99.
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jasondigitized
2 hours ago
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You have an example in the wild?
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philipp-gayret
2 hours ago
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Looking around on Reddit I see a lot of them have started to get banned, I was able to find the name of it though; Aptilink. An Aptilink viral marketing search yields posts like these; https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/18iyl5v/linkedin_... and people discovering it's marketing: https://www.reddit.com/r/HailCorporate/comments/1e9t44j/aita...
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wibbily
24 minutes ago
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Maybe the solution is to ban editing. Or let moderators review + approve edits at least.

The gambling site “Stake” was doing the same thing recently, they’d make posts on financial advice or gaming subreddits and edit in a link (as to be “oh btw I need advice because I made money betting”). Were even using Greek Unicode “a”s and “e”s to hide from the automod filters. Scumbags among scumbags

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risyachka
4 hours ago
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>> can all tell

the reality is most users can't tell. you can see it under every ai post on reddit, unless it is creaming ai in every word.

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AstroBen
4 hours ago
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Most of those replies are also AI
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fbrncci
3 hours ago
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Marketing for founders in 2026: just buy ads and invest into actual marketing. Because everyone else is busy spamming SaaS directories, subreddits and twitter (often with sock puppets) and wasting everyone’s time.
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CuriouslyC
1 hour ago
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Ads are trash unless you already have PMF, and even then they're often still trash if you don't do it right or you don't have the right kind of product.
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fbrncci
1 hour ago
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I consistently launch small vibe codes products. Slap ads on them and after a few weeks decide what to do with them without launching them anywhere else and am seeing good results. I see little to no reason to even launch them any other way at this point.
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MikeNotThePope
1 hour ago
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How do you make the ads themselves? Are you a content creator yourself? Using AI? Hiring someone to make them?
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paulryanrogers
2 hours ago
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What is "actual marketing" these days, if not spamming socials?
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fbrncci
1 hour ago
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Understanding how to run paid advertising well beyond throwing money and a budget at a campaign and calling it a day. It’s generally not covered by most solo or bootstrapped founder guides, but in 2026 it can make all the difference. And it may take WEEKS before a campaign can mature before it shows results; depending on the chosen advertiser… which is a little counter to what people want (immediate results, first 10 users, 100 waitlist signups, etc).

You can still pay someone else to spam your product on social media at a fraction of the cost of paid ad campaigns (and a fraction of the results).

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redgridtactical
3 hours ago
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The long lists of "places to post your launch" are less useful than people think. I've had way better results from just hanging out in communities where my users already are and actually participating in discussions over weeks/months before ever mentioning what I'm building. Cold-posting your launch link to 50 subreddits and forums gets you traffic with zero retention. The founders I know who grew organically all say the same thing: be a genuine member of the community first.
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nickjantz
53 minutes ago
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Like the social listening section under social media marketing in this linked guide?
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paulryanrogers
2 hours ago
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Always better to prewarm your sock puppets before spamming. That's why I joined HN in the first place!

(The product flopped and I got lost on so many rabbit trails. YC took me out of the game with a side hustle forum!)

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thorio
3 hours ago
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Sometimes time doesn't allow that for multiple communities simultaneously, but you are right. Still I think a lot of online communities are drowning in AI slob diluting the well thought about stuff that would deserve the attention.
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r1qdj0
2 hours ago
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Just launched an open-source tool on a few subs; r/SideProject barely moved, but r/software and r/Markdown got like 4k views each. What did something for me was actually just describing the situation that led me to build the thing. People who had the same problem showed up.
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CM30
42 minutes ago
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Eh, I question the list here. Why? Because they're all startup founder focused sites and communities.

Unless your product or service is aimed at other founders, or a techie focused audience in general, that's not where your customers are. Advertising there is like a game developer marketing their game to other devs or a writer marketing their book towards other writers.

What you really want to do is figure out who your audience actually is, figure out where they hang out online, and promote it there. Niche specific forums, subreddits, Discord servers, social media communities, etc.

That said, there's no real harm in advertising in these places, and other founders can give you useful feedback.

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pedalpete
3 hours ago
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Are these sorts of general advice on how to do X even valuable today when you can put the details of your start-up into AI and get a more customized and moderately more thoughtful actions based on what your start-up does, who your customers are, etc?

Who's still going through these kinds of docs?

I know micro.so (I'm not affiliated with them) have documented how to build agentic B2B sales AI that you can download (if you give them your email address). https://www.micro.so/guides/sales

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ratsimihah
2 hours ago
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This game is getting so hard. Everyone can now spam build like Pieter Levels and Marc Lou did years ago, so solo bootstrapping’s got way harder it feels.

I’ve taken a break from building to try to find an audience, a real problem, and real users before building anything anymore.

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operatingthetan
2 hours ago
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>a real problem

I think this is the issue with the bulk of the saas spammers I see on reddit or whatever. They are just duplicating existing things that don't have a welcoming market anymore.

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CuriouslyC
1 hour ago
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This is basically the situation.

If you don't have an audience don't bother to build anything for anyone else, it literally doesn't matter how good it is or how much people need it, they'll never see it unless you directly spam them.

If you're a 10x builder with 0 followers on socials, sorry to say but you can get cucked by a noob with claude code and a big audience.

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wek
3 hours ago
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Thank you for sharing this. I found some good articles in what you shared. The long lists of places to post are not that helpful. I've poured through 100 of them in the past and only the top 20 make a difference, you might want to update the list to prioritize. I tend to point Claude Code or Codex at these lists, have them evaluate the scores of the sites and give me a priority list.
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jsunderland323
4 hours ago
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When I'm in marketing mode and I have to spam, I do my best to keep a 1:1 schill to not related to my product comment ratio. As a founder it is your job to spam your product but I think there are ways to be tactful and give back to the platforms you're schilling on.

I also find that it's way more effective to live in the comment sections. Rarely does the "Hey, look at me, I'm selling a piece of software" post genuinely do well. It's always so tempting to do that too but It's way better to find someone asking specifically for a thing you're solving and respond to the individuals.

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dzonga
3 hours ago
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this all just noise!!

please approach marketing like a human being. i.e one marketing starts before selling - before you have a product

if you adopt the 'indiehacker / influenzer' tactics outlined in that repo - you will starve.

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absoluteunit1
4 hours ago
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> Should you focus on SEO in the early days of your startup? Probably not

I would completely disagree with this (product dependent).

If your product is a consumer app - I would highly prioritize and understand SEO before even having a product complete. Develop a good understanding of SEO around your product domain and niche.

If it’s a B2B - then yes, I would agree.

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rnewme
50 minutes ago
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Any advice for (mostly edu) non profit SEO?
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elxr
4 hours ago
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What perfect timing. Looks extremely well curated too.
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m3kw9
2 hours ago
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Just send your agent here and go to town
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