This is like saying a hospital that uses Excel is handing over data to Microsoft.
While you yourself think Palantir’s products are “like Excel” ?
They are not. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/26/ai-got-the-blam...
Also, I don't see anything in your link that contradicts the fact that governments' data remains in the custody of the government, not Palantir.
Peter Thiel shows up A LOT in those files. I don’t think it’s out of the question that he would use palantir’s data to assassinate people.
You realize that this is not mutually exclusive with what I just wrote?
Palantir builds software for military and security purposes. But the customers don't give this data to Palantir, custody of this data remains with the customer.
It's not like tech companies deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trust anymore, if they ever did
How is that possible if Palantir software runs on machines Palantir controls?
People seem to struggle with the concept of private datacenters these days. Palantir customers tend to be the sorts of orgs that are pretty paranoid about their data, and they wouldn't be handing it over to some schmucks without being confident that those concerns were addressed. Militaries and governments generally aren't fuckin around with things like intelligence data, so I think it's reasonable that Palantir is able to make a convincing case to the world's most paranoid orgs that their data isn't being sent anywhere (and it'd likely be air gapped anyway).
Just because everything you touch is in the cloud doesn't mean other orgs aren't still building their own datacenters and then buying software to run inside.
What’s up with all these Palantir shills in this thread
> It also includes a line stating that with permission from the city agency, Palantir can “de-identify” patients’ protected health information and use it for “purposes other than research”.
Under HIPPA, "research" has a very specific definition which renders "purposes other than research" quite broad. Yes, it's "with permission" but it does depend on the city agency fully understanding what ancillary things Palantir can do with de-identified data once it has left the covered entity and without further explicit permission.
Government and 365 is weird.
Non-military entities use “Government Community Cloud”, which is an environment where data is stored in segmented areas of Microsoft data centers, but everything else is on commercial infrastructure.
You absolutely can host keys as a customer.
The Microsoft approach to all of this stuff is insane.
If even sovereign states with clear laws forbidding such behavior can't keep those companies in check, no enterprise/b2b can.
After DOGE, a movement Palantir aided [1], I think it's fair for folks to wonder to what degree these firms have been infiltrated by extremists. Someone who will convince themselves that exporting data to ICE or the Proud Boys—like the names of every New Yorker whose medical records say they are gay, circumcised or have had an abortion—is the right thing to do. (Or at least funny and inconsequential.)
It's a risk. Not a conclusion. But given Palantir's offering is becoming less differentiated by the day, I think it's fair for people to look for alternatives.
[1] https://www.wired.com/story/palantir-doge-irs-mega-api-data/
https://www.palantir.com/docs/foundry/ontology-sdk/python-os...
hmmmmmm
Yea.. like.. how, though?
Here are their setup instructions. It seems pretty clear what is happening to your data, and an unqualified statement that you maintain some nebulous idea of "custody" seems oblivious to even simple risk.
https://www.palantir.com/docs/foundry/data-connection/initia...
This isn't even getting into their "forward deployed software engineers" or how that whole aspect of their "product" works.
Custody enforcement using the cloud hosted product, is mostly contractual, although they do offer some technical features, like encrypting all data using a AWS KMS key in the customer's AWS account.
Still, this relies on trusting that they won't make their own separate copies of the data.
pinky promise?
If he's stated an actual intent to end democracy in the US, it'd be good to cite that.
https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2026/02/17/palantir-piss/
Why should we feel good about him running any company.
So it’s a trust problem, if the government were seen as effective and worthy then I want them to be effective, which includes using the data they collect effectively. In this climate trendy people would prefer that their corrupt government is also fully incompetent to limit the effect of the corruption.
The broader point is Palantir's specific confluence of:
- access to granular, non-anonymized data across industry silos
- its chairman's specific pro-authoritarian mission (so pointedly so that the Catholic Church felt the need to make a specific rebuke a few days ago [1])
- a regulatory environment in which its monetary risks are arguably minimized if it takes the broadest possible reading of e.g. HIPAA's law enforcement exceptions that mention "written administrative requests" [2]
- documented concerns about governance [3]
Those concerned with this confluence are far from conspiracy theorists, and may be quite rationally interested in protecting e.g. the public reputation of their hospital networks, and ability to service - to say nothing of their desire to protect the privacy of their patients.
[0] https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2026-03-24/and...
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/world/europe/peter-thiel-... - https://archive.is/2EOXa
[2] https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/faq/505/what-doe...
[3] https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/letter-to-palantir-techn...
That seems like an interesting discussion though. Why would it be necessary?
The weight of this argument rests on how much you care about being in range of MRBMs, how likely you think it is that MRBMs will be a decisive factor in a future conflict, and whether or not you want the United States to be victorious in this potential conflict. Many people do not care about this threat, don't think MRBMs will matter, and/or want the United States to lose. I am not one of those people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty
"bars states party to the treaty from placing weapons of mass destruction in Earth orbit, installing them on the Moon or any other celestial body, or otherwise stationing them in outer space"
but 1. today's sentiment is: to hell with these treaties-schmeaties, and 2. what you mentioned is not yet a weapon of _mass_ destruction, so we're all good!
> - access to granular, non-anonymized data across industry silos
Do you have evidence that Palantir itself - not customers using Palantir software - has access to this data?
And really, I don't think anyone wants to "oh sweet summer child" you in your doubts here, but it's really extremely hard to not want to just... gesture around the world right now and ask why you still believe in some kind of sanctity or infallibility of something like the legal contract or other various forms of de jure "accountability" when it comes to tech companies, especially one as big as this.
This is basically saying you have the same DB schema on your dev environment as you do on prod. If anyone made that kind leap in logic, I would conclude they have little to no technical know how.
Mostly because hating Palantir is a trendy leftist virtue signal. Defund ICE being another one. Defund the police was trendy five years ago, but is no longer popular.
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That said I also recognize the moral dilemma and understand why they'd pull out. Frankly I'm surprised they did much work with hospitals at all
Left: They kill babies and have your poop data.
Right: They are so much more than that. That have super intelligence AI with drone puppetry. Have you seen the leaked dashboards!
Just saying.
spyware
Of course. Everyone is an AI firm now.
A weapon system capable of targeting any person on Earth controlled by a mass surveillance company. Wonderful.
Everyone knows what's going on, but also everyone is too afraid to stand up for some reason.
Thiel is another incredibly bizarre creep, and he sits as the chairman of the board. Both are very tightly associated with the Trump crime syndicate and the US government, which increasingly is the world's #1 threat, and should be treated as equally dangerous.