Researchers find 3,500-year-old loom that reveals textile revolution
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by geox
3 days ago
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srean
5 hours ago
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I am always pleasantly amused that many HN folks share with me a love for weaving, knitting and knotting; not to mention ropes.

Dang had once posted a long list of HN discussions on these topics.

I think there is something about them that squirts a little bit of dopamine in our pattern seeking, puzzle solving brains.

For me, one of draws was how does the symmetry of the woven pattern get weft into the cloth. Multi-shaft looms does it differently from, say, a Kashmiri rug.

When I had joined HN decades ago I had no idea that there would be this shared interest. Frankly, there were no reason for this to be the case.

Then one day this happened

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44462404

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don-bright
18 minutes ago
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Jaquard loom was one of the first machines that could operate based on a set of symbols / patterns encoded on a punched card. Computers ran on punched cards until the 1970s. Voting machines used punched cards until pretty recently (infamous "hanging chad" from 2000 US election).
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shrubble
1 hour ago
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The creator of SNOBOL and Icon programming languages, Ralph Griswold, also developed an interest in weaving and wrote about it; see for instance https://www.thelacebee.com/the-lace-notes/tess-the-professor...
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mitthrowaway2
3 hours ago
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I have heard it said that the word "technology" shares its roots with the word "textiles". Maybe it's not so surprising that there would be a shared interest as well!
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segmondy
23 minutes ago
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where did you think punch cards came from? you know, the punch cards that we use to represent the first computer programs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card. read the precursor section.

Basile Bouchon developed the control of a loom by punched holes in paper tape in 1725. The design was improved by his assistant Jean-Baptiste Falcon and by Jacques Vaucanson.[5] Although these improvements controlled the patterns woven, they still required an assistant to operate the mechanism.

In 1804 Joseph Marie Jacquard demonstrated a mechanism to automate loom operation. A number of punched cards were linked into a chain of any length. Each card held the instructions for shedding (raising and lowering the warp) and selecting the shuttle for a single pass.[6]

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shagie
3 hours ago
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https://www.etymonline.com/word/*teks-

> Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to weave," also "to fabricate," especially with an ax, also "to make wicker or wattle fabric for (mud-covered) house walls."

> It might form all or part of: architect; context; dachshund; polytechnic; pretext; subtle; technical; techno-; technology; tectonic; tete; text; textile; tiller (n.1) "bar to turn the rudder of a boat;" tissue; toil (n.2) "net, snare."

> It might also be the source of: Sanskrit taksati "he fashions, constructs," taksan "carpenter;" Avestan taša "ax, hatchet," thwaxš- "be busy;" Old Persian taxš- "be active;" Latin texere "to weave, fabricate," tela "web, net, warp of a fabric;" Greek tekton "carpenter," tekhnē "art;" Old Church Slavonic tesla "ax, hatchet;" ...

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8bitsrule
3 hours ago
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Always good to learn more about the timeline of techniques lost in the mists of time. Some of the finest works of art were 'coded' in fibers, much more durable that most other media!
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zem
3 hours ago
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I think it's not just puzzle solving - for me it's the idea of creating something from raw materials where that something is itself a standard building block. it appeals to the same part of me that programming does.
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