Nigel Farage wants to build a British ICE. Starmer may have handed him the tools
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derelicta
2 minutes ago
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Further evidence that social democrats are just moderate fascists.
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testfrequency
37 minutes ago
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Fear mongering clickbait article and headline.

Must be fun to just speculate on pessimism instead of optimism. Gotta get subscribers somehow I suppose, prey on the unhappy and scared.

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damnitbuilds
1 hour ago
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AFAICT, the problem in the UK is with too many people being allowed to stay for spurious reasons, not with people not being removed when they (legally) should be ?
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seanhunter
55 minutes ago
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Honestly neither of these things is a remotely important problem in the UK. The whole conversation about immigration in the UK is just a dogwhistle to try to attract racist voters now that since brexit they can’t use conversation about the EU for that.
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testfrequency
35 minutes ago
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This is my opinion as well, and it’s not working (thankfully). Let them cry wolf.
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mytailorisrich
39 minutes ago
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Immigration is actually one of the main issues in the UK and it's not about racism.

Productivity, population growth (and impact on housing and services), population aging (and impact on social care and NHS), societal and cultural changes and conflicts, national identity, etc are all linked to immigration.

The issue is compounded by the fact that successive governments say they want to be tough on immigration, but actually do the opposite. This is what pushes voters to Reform UK and away from the Tories, among other things. Labour is now doing the same (relatively tough talk but no actual effective action).

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testfrequency
33 minutes ago
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Immigration is not a main issue in the UK. Maybe it is for you?

It’s a topic, but not an “issue”.

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mytailorisrich
31 minutes ago
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The more you bury your head in the sand and try to convince yourself and others of that the more it becomes a bigger issue that will blow up in everyone's faces at one point.
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testfrequency
26 minutes ago
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So you want me to convince myself that immigration is an issue?

You blame immigrants moving into the country causing what problem exactly? Too many NHS workers from foreign countries now, or too much competition for you when applying for roles?

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0xy
3 minutes ago
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Well you do have institutional fraud by foreign NHS workers with fake qualifications likely risking people's lives so why don't you tell us?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/14/nhs-nurses-b...

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itsthejb
31 minutes ago
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davydm
1 hour ago
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I hate that ICE doesn't just mean internal combustion engine - thought this would be about a "national" british engine, but instead it's just people being assholes.
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NoLatency
1 hour ago
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If that was the first connotation that people had with the acronym ICE, the world would be a nicer place.
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