What have been the greatest intellectual achievements? (2017)
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by o4c
1 hour ago
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yen223
40 seconds ago
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Whoever figured out writing, all those years ago.

The compounded effect of having knowledge recorded for generations to come - thereby unlocking all the other things mentioned on this list - surely should count for something.

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aerhardt
1 minute ago
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The fact that Hegel is not there is ridiculous. Perhaps the most influential philosopher since Aristotle.

Not only did he influence the young hegelians and Marx, he continues to influence many philosophers across all kinds of schools and ideologies.

Marx not being there is an implicit moral judgement - if “great” means good in some ethical sense subjective, then OK. But if “great” means impactful or influential, that’s a problem.

Then no Spinoza, Leibniz, Hume, Tocqueville, Watt, Ford, Schumpeter, Cervantes…

On the latter, not a single mention of literature. I find this list problematic in an innumerable amount of ways.

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Xcelerate
14 minutes ago
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Would be interesting to think about what works are currently out there, published, yet will not be recognized as great intellectual achievements until much later after the fact for some reason.
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compounding_it
52 minutes ago
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Be modest. A lot was accomplished before you were born.

Humans are incredible. Leaving the planet and taking a trip on the moon and possibly mars someday is no small feat.

We just need to fix our planet. Or to be honest, stop ruining it so it heals itself.

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smokel
4 minutes ago
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Humans are also, possibly apart from dogs, the only beings that think humans are incredible. If we take any other entity in the universe, then chances are they think pretty lowly of humans and their cherished intelligence, if at all.
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lukan
53 minutes ago
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o4c
34 minutes ago
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Fixed it. Thank you!
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okintheory
17 minutes ago
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This was clearly written by someone with too little exposure to history and (comparably) too much to academic economics. No one else could think Coase belongs on such a list and forget Orsted/Faraday/Maxwell (initially...). And if you think John Locke did something important beyond adding philosophical veneer to capitalism as it was already practiced, you need to read Meiksins Wood's 'The Origin of Capitalism'.
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jmrodgers
22 minutes ago
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towledev
14 minutes ago
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Is it though? All languages have the word 'nothing'.

Better candidates: a) place-value numbering aka the positional numeral system, b) the Cartesian coordinate system. Forced to choose, I would pick (b).

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Asraelite
1 minute ago
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"nothing" is not the same the same as "zero". "zero apples" means something different to "nothing", but that difference is subtle and difficult to explain, which is what makes the invention of zero such an achievement.
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finghin
30 minutes ago
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>Descartes' launch of modern analytic philosophy I find this questionable. If we go back there is a similar analyticity to Spinoza. Go forward and Frege, Russell and Wittgenstein are impossible to ignore given this framing.
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Joker_vD
18 minutes ago
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Like, seriously. Descartes was quite a great mathematician, but he was wrong about pretty much anything related to philosophy, biology, or physics (I've read his explanation of the refraction law; it's frankly worse than Newton's).
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moxifly7
28 minutes ago
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The mention of effective altruism at the end aged a bit badly.
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douglee650
34 minutes ago
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Aren't special and general relativity the grand leviathans of intellectual achievement? Pure thought unlocking the nature of existence.
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dofdial
37 minutes ago
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+ using trees to form Pen & Paper for knowledge transfer.
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The-Ludwig
18 minutes ago
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Planck didn’t make the list, although his achievements did.

I’d also argue that Meitner and Noether deserve a mention.

Stepping outside my expertise, I’d argue Poppers description of what science and Pseudo-Science is, is essential.

Anyway great list!

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uncanny2
31 minutes ago
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Modern information theory is wrong. Information is not the fundamental essence of existential reality, potential resolving into state is. This subtle difference propagates into the modern intellectual lies we tell ourselves. Reality is not “states.” It is “potential” resolving into “states” through constructive and destructive interference. The “number of states allowable in a system” is a function of boundary conditions of potential distribution.

I think you will find this agrees with Shannon’s original point and purpose as expressed in his seminal equation. Every interpretation since beginning with “the state of …” or “number of states …” is a misapprehension exhibiting the intellectual fallibility of our times.

This is only one for instance.

Read my threads, if you can find your way around my claims of the voices in our heads being real and waging a secret war among us, and the UFOs are actually a long familiar secret, you will find other arguments regarding the tightly held ideals so many believe as fundamental truths of this age.

Burtrand Russel and Einstein both agreed to their death beds that most of what we tell ourselves is true is merely what we have come to agree with among ourselves.

This is as true today.

The difficulty lies not in finding “Truths”, the difficulty is undeceiving the self.

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lukan
21 minutes ago
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"The difficulty lies not in finding “Truths”, the difficulty is undeceiving the self."

So what makes you think you successfully undeceived yourself? The voices in your head told you as much?

Besides, of course the voices in our head are real. (What would be a unreal voice in our head?) But if you believe they are coming from aliens or whatever it is you are claiming, I would recommend therapy.

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uncanny2
8 minutes ago
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Read my threads. The Aliens are the nice guys, the Americans and their Thought Control are spreading pedophilia and running a rape war. They are the voices in our heads. They are Jesus Christ in the minds of the White Nationalists.

I came to be a person of interest due to my ideals. As a person of interest I have been indoctrinated (press ganged) into the greatest secret of our humanity.

I am not here to “prove” to you. I am bearing an account, and I think if you read this collection of threads you will see I have explained my position clearly if not “incredulously.”

If you cannot tell without an authoritative collective reassuring you that “entropy” is the “existential phenomena of potential distributing over the surface area of negative potential.” After hearing it and giving it some moments, you cannot be impressed only assured.

The great big problem is that we as humans are sleep walking through our time of prosperity and comfortable convenience.

That we must awaken ourselves every day to a new world that is POTENTIAL RESOLVING not states interacting.

You have trained yourself to see the world as you expect it, and the world you “think feel and believe” in is a pleasant self satisfying lie. On many levels.

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