Show HN: Plain – The full-stack Python framework designed for humans and agents
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donfuzius
6 minutes ago
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Something like this has been on my mind for a while. When using LLMs for coding I believe it is a significant benefit, if the amount of lines to be reviewed by humans is as small as possible. An app, which is not much more than a configuration in a dense, custom made DSL with minimal coding to specify business logic would be the simplest artifact that a human can review quickly and an LLM can manipulate with ease (provided there's good docs / linting / errors / maybe even a finetuned model at some point).

Everything which just works "by convention" or by "opinionated defaults" (allowing a tightly coupled but very feature rich framework) helps to reduce the noise / lines that needs to be reviewed.

While this approach might not be optimal for every project, I'm certain the opinionated defaults can work for many endeavours. And the reduction of complexity might be one important aspect, which can make an "agentically engineered" project sustainable.

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petcat
57 minutes ago
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It looks like it's a fork of Django that just kind changed a bunch of stuff arbitrarily?
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vb-8448
31 minutes ago
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From the readme: Plain is a fork of Django, driven by ongoing development at PullApprove — with the freedom to reimagine it for the agentic era.
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pbreit
41 minutes ago
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That would be good if the changes are to slim it down by 80%.
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jacktheturtle
33 minutes ago
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Nice. Love the idea behind this. I have been using Django for most of my vibe coded side projects just for the reasons stated in this thesis.

Django code is pretty easy to review quickly. LLMs are good at writing it.

Django is just old and bloated, so the fork is a good idea. Maybe I will use this for my next side project.

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deafpolygon
9 minutes ago
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It’s vibe-coded, too. Pass.
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james-clef
1 minute ago
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As someone who is leaning into this vibe coding thing recently, kind of interested to know the sentiment here. What was the tell? Like can you give line numbers or some reference. Feel like 100% certified organic code is a pretty high bar going forward.
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durovilla
18 minutes ago
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How does this compare to FastAPI + SQLModel?
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jaredcwhite
27 minutes ago
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So a sloppified Django spit out by Claude? Good luck with that.
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