Qwen3.6-35B-A3B on my laptop drew me a better pelican than Claude Opus 4.7
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jbellis
29 minutes ago
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For coding, qwen 3.6 35b a3b solved 11/98 of the Power Ranking tasks (best-of-two), compared to 10/98 for the same size qwen 3.5. So it's at best very slightly improved and not at all in the class of qwen 3.5 27b dense (26 solved) let alone opus (95/98 solved, for 4.6).
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VHRanger
12 minutes ago
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That's not surprising; Opus & Sonnet have been regressing on many non-coding tasks since about the 4.1 release in our testing
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ericpauley
1 hour ago
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Going to have to disagree on the backup test. Opus flamingo is actually on the pedals and seat with functional spokes and beak. In terms of adherence to physical reality Qwen is completely off. To me it's a little puzzling that someone would prefer the Qwen output.

I'd say the example actually does (vaguely) suggest that Qwen might be overfitting to the Pelican.

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wongarsu
12 minutes ago
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Qwen's flamingo is artistically far more interesting. It's a one-eyed flamingo with sunglasses and a bow tie who smokes pot. Meanwhile Opus just made a boring, somewhat dorky flamingo. Even the ground and sky are more interesting in Qwen's version

But in terms of making something physically plausible, Opus certainly got a lot closer

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mentalgear
46 minutes ago
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I understand the 'fun factor' but at this point I really wonder what this pelican still proofs ? I mean, providers certainly could have adapted for it if they wanted, and if you want to test how well a model adapts to potential out of distribution contexts, it might be more worthwhile to mix different animals with different activity types (a whale on a skateboard) than always the same.
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simonw
29 minutes ago
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That's why I did the flamingo on a unicycle.

For a delightful moment this morning I thought I might have finally caught a model provider cheating by training for the pelican, but the flamingo convinced me that wasn't the case.

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prodigycorp
17 minutes ago
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To me the opus flamingo is waaaay better than the qwen one. qwen has the better pelican, though.
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dude250711
14 minutes ago
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Is a flamingo on a unicycle not merely a special case of a pelican on a bicycle?
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aliljet
12 minutes ago
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I'm really curious about what competes with Claude Code to drive a local LLM like Qwen 3.6?
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smashed
4 minutes ago
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OpenCode?
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comandillos
1 hour ago
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I've been using Qwen3.5-35B-A3B for a bit via open code and oMLX on M5 Max with 128Gb of RAM and I have to say it's impressively good for a model of that size. I've seen a huge jump in the quality of the tool calls and how well it handles the agentic workflow.
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iib
53 minutes ago
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This is about the newly release Qwen3.6. Just wanted to make sure you got that correctly.
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19qUq
24 minutes ago
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How about switching to MechaStalin on a tricycle? It gets kind of boring.
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mvanbaak
1 minute ago
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boring ... the ways all the models fail at a simple task never gets boring to me
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