European civil servants are being forced off WhatsApp
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1 hour ago
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| politico.eu
| HN
dotcoma
2 minutes ago
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It’s just common sense.
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dr_dshiv
2 minutes ago
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European civil servants are also usually banned from using AI — perhaps with the exception of Microsoft copilot. They live in a bubble where they just don’t know. This goes for most academics as well.
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throwa356262
1 hour ago
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Governments want to move away from “platforms over which we have no control,” says Dutch minister.

Sure, that is fair enough. But why is EU not setting up their own servers for whisper or activity pub or whatever OSS protocols and just make that their only official and approved communication channel?

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galbar
57 minutes ago
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It is my understanding that a lot of EU governments are setting up their own matrix servers.
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hackerbeat
38 minutes ago
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Good. The US is gone.
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spwa4
44 minutes ago
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The problem with these efforts is always the same: organizations make their own messenger, and the fact that these organizations then have control over their own messenger ... means their employees won't use it. And that's ignoring that you can bet your firstborn they cut corners developing these messengers, so they're not pleasant to use to boot. In 2026 you still hear complaints of government employees that they only have 200 mb of mailbox space ... sigh

People "don't trust" in the very abstract sense, Mark Zuckerberg. But in a very real sense they don't trust their manager at all, and they know their own manager can see their messages on the "sovereign" messenger. Zuckerberg wants to sell them stuff they don't want on occasion. Their manager ... well they're cheating their manager.

Oh and it doesn't even buy extra security: the platform owners can spy directly through hardware backdoors, they can "update" any app on the phone, and they have the root keys to the secure element, and so it isn't secure to them. And if you look under the covers ... the backend is on AWS? No? Must be on Azure then.

So annoying lots of people, reducing functionality, for no actual security.

Sure sounds like EU governments are behind this ...

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JumpCrisscross
24 minutes ago
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> organizations make their own messenger, and the fact that these organizations then have control over their own messenger ... means their employees won't use it

Legally mandate its use for official communications.

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subscribed
6 minutes ago
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And they'll keep doing what Boris Johnson was doing when in power: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-covid...

They'll do it anyway.

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spwa4
18 minutes ago
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So the managers also demand their employees don't use it you mean? Because then it can be used against them in court? (cfr. email "retention policies" legal departments demand these days?)
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gretch
29 minutes ago
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I've always found it ironic that people who distrust software from Mark Zuckerberg instead trust software from... 3 guys in a garage.

"Those 3 guys in a garage would never sell us out! They are paragons of virtue!"

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p1anecrazy
19 minutes ago
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Very good. No backstabbing DARPA shit in our house
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440bx
55 minutes ago
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European civil servants, some of whom I have worked with, do most of the stuff that is uncontrollable while slightly pissed on roof bars after work. WhatsApp is the least of their problems.

Edit: love the downvoted from people who have never overheard red trouser lot speaking about current operations in a London pub slightly too loudly ... you have no idea!

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lamasery
14 minutes ago
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I expect the downvotes are because rather than simply calling attention to and providing an interesting perspective on another area of weakness, you're also suggesting it's a mistake to address this one while the other exists, which suggestion isn't being well-received.
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