OpenClaw stats don't add up
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2 hours ago
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I was setting up OpenClaw and went looking for best skills and hosting - and I'm really puzzled.

On one hand I see runaway popularity - 247K GitHub stars. 13,700 community skills. - I read about Chinese cloud provider forks. Stock market rally. Hosting providers offering managed OpenClaw hosting, same tier as WordPress.

But when I look at OpenClaw hub - the most-downloaded skill has 35K installs - Highest-rated skill: 132 stars

247K stars vs 35K installs looks like huge gap for me.

Other observations - Popular skills are pedestrian connectors (Gmail, search, Obsidian, Home Assistant) — things a dozen other tools already do - a lot of stock/trade skills, many in Chinese - I get charged per API call (I use Claude) on top of my monthly subscription

I read news about - "lobster trade", where stock rallies on OpenClaw-related announcements - Government subsidy: Shenzhen offering up to $1.4M grants for OpenClaw-based one-person companies, Wuxi $730K - company stock rallying in China when a company announces OpenClaw

I wanted to use OpenClaw in conjunciton with my robotics startup PMF search. I checked OpenClawRobotics - a community site for applying OpenClaw to robotics - and it appears to be abandoned. The signup form doesn't work.

Claude tells me - managed OpenClaw hosting now available is the telling signal. Infrastructure providers commoditize projects when novelty has passed and recurring revenue becomes the play. Late-cycle behavior, not early-cycle. - "Lobster trade" is a stock market phenomenon, not product adoption.

Don't get me wrong, I love the OpenClaw project. But I can't help noticing this and scratching my head.

What do you think?

SyntaxErrorist
22 minutes ago
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You’ve made some great points. It’s odd that OpenClaw has 247K GitHub stars but only 35K installs on the most popular skill. The basic skills like Gmail and Obsidian seem to be drawing the most attention, but they feel more like short term solutions. The managed hosting and the stock rally suggest that it's becoming more about the infrastructure and recurring revenue, rather than true product adoption. I’m with you there’s potential here, but it’s tough to say where it’s really headed.
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rvz
2 hours ago
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> Hosting providers offering managed OpenClaw hosting, same tier as WordPress.

Almost no-one is making money out of OpenClaw other than the hosting providers.

That is why the OpenClaw hype is dying. It's just a way for people to throw their money away on tokens and the model providers extracting money from that.

There is no use case for it other than wasting tokens.

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