GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs
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languid-photic
1 hour ago
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We track performance vs. the all-in cost of completing real engineering tasks, rather than cost per token. [1]

Cost per token is a bit misleading because, as others have noted, different models use tokens in different ways. (Aside - This is also why TPS isn't a great metric).

We found that 5.5 is about 1.5-2x more expensive overall. On a "Pareto" basis, we only find 5.5 xhigh worth it. At the lower reasoning levels, 5.4 still edges it out on cost/perf.

We take a spec-driven approach and mostly work in TS (on product development), so if you use a more steer-y approach, or work in a different domain, YMMV.

[1] https://voratiq.com/leaderboard?x=cost

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iceKirin
2 hours ago
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I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?
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barrell
1 hour ago
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Azure recently discontinued the gpt-4.1 model. I had to move off of this model, and moving to any gpt-5* model was worse (higher failures & less accuracy), and more expensive. I had to rewrite the entire system from high school level prompts to lower elementary school level prompts using non-gpt models.

I would say models entered a bottleneck a long time ago. My personal opinion is now they are overfitting newer models on coding and "agentic" capabilities at great expense of general abilities in other domains.

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olao99
2 hours ago
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For what is worth I find GPT 5.5 qualitatively different than 5.4 and 5.3

If I had to collapse the nature of the difference in one sentence it'd be that the 5.5 does more what I'm asking it to do versus doing a small aspect of what I'm asking then stopping.

5.4 required a lot of "continue" encouragement. 5.5 just "gets it" a bit more

What is boils down to for me is that even though it's more expensive I would much rather use 5.5 on low then 5.4/5.3 on high/medium

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varispeed
9 minutes ago
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They must have changed something recently as when 5.5 first dropped I was unable to make it do anything. It would say it will implement, but would never actually do it, no matter how many times I tried to tell it what it needs to do. It would acknowledge what needs to be done, even create step by step plan and then ask if it should do it. I would confirm and then it will just go around reiterating the plan and that this time it will start. Annoying and funny. Now it doesn't seem to be doing that anymore.
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Wingy
33 seconds ago
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I think that's a failure mode of using the legacy completions API rather than the new responses API. With the responses API, the agent actually goes and does the things it's supposed to do.
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2ndorderthought
2 hours ago
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I am delighted to see the ceiling on small models exponentially increase. I think the "make models unsustainably large because the benchmark improved by 1%" practice is ending. I think the thing boosting small models will be the thing that makes LLMs actually useful. The main thing is research.
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captainbland
16 minutes ago
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In fairness I think these recent few iterations have done reasonably well considering it's largely optimising/fine tuning/enhancing multimodal integrations in existing foundation models rather than generating new ones but at some point the next big foundation models will come out.

We'll probably see another stair step change followed by another plateauing curve of incremental improvements when that happens.

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aurareturn
1 hour ago
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They likely entered the same compute constraint scenario as Anthropic.

IE. They had 100 compute units. Demand is 200 units. They have to do a combination of buying more compute, increasing price, lowering limits, etc.

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jere
41 minutes ago
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You mean the company that just doubled their rate limits? https://www.anthropic.com/news/higher-limits-spacex
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eiekek11
1 hour ago
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Bunch of nonsense.

If that is true then they should all invest resources into projects that will yield efficient use of the compute. The most efficient producer then gains a huge cost advantage AND capacity to serve more… so yeah.. that logic doesn’t hold.

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cyanydeez
1 hour ago
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capitalism convinced you that line goes up unless you dont let it eat all the resources.
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patates
2 hours ago
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Considering my use case (web apps), there already wasn't anything I couldn't do with Opus 4.5, the same will be true or were already true for more people in other releases, and at some point, which may have already passed, most people will stop finding qualitative leaps.

This doesn't always mean that there is a bottleneck in terms of raw power, it may also mean that your use cases (or the lower hanging fruits among them) are already covered.

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helloplanets
2 hours ago
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Are you running gpt-5.5 on xhigh reasoning? Because I'm seeing a clear difference between that and gpt-5.4 on xhigh.
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gchamonlive
2 hours ago
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My take is that demand is also increasing, so maybe they are making incremental improvements to model quality while focusing on improving inference costs. Prices are increasing though because even if they achieve a very efficient model, they are still selling at a loss.
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wahnfrieden
30 minutes ago
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5.4 and 5.5 were each a big jump for Codex use
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SecretDreams
2 hours ago
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> Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

So quickly - this industry has had trillions thrown around to get here so quickly, heh.

But, yes, capability seems somewhat stagnant. It's about ISO perf and cost improvements or iso cost and perf improvements + agentic.

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cyanydeez
1 hour ago
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its a sigmoid, not a bottleneck.
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XCSme
2 hours ago
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~3.5x more expensive to run my benchmarks[0].

[0]: https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-5-4-medium/openai-gp...

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jsnell
6 hours ago
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This doesn't seem to be controlling for the number of turns in any way. Am I missing something?

Stronger models needing fewer turns to achieve a task feels like a prime source of efficiency gains for agentic coding, more so than individual responses being shorter.

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jfim
5 hours ago
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They also don't mention what their sample size is, or anything about the distribution of input and response lengths.

It'd be interesting to see the distributions if the author actually plotted the data, so we could see if their analysis holds water or not.

A plot of the input lengths using ggplot2 geom_density with color and fill by model, 0.1 alpha, and an appropriate bandwidth adjustment would allow us to see if the input data distribution looks similar across the two, and using the same for the output length distributions, faceted by the input length bins would give us an idea if those look the same too.

Edit: Or even a faceted plot using input bins of output length/input length.

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sarjann
2 hours ago
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I think it should be tested on goals.

E.g. Crack this puzzle, fix this code so these tests pass. (A human can verify it doesn't cheese things).

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coalhouse
2 hours ago
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it does seem like a step change in token efficiency, though based on the earlier artificial analysis reporting it's also quite the cost lottery and i'm not sure i am comfortable with that
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i_think_so
4 hours ago
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Has any enterprising hacker here yet graphed price vs "output" over time since 2023, taking "quality" into account?

That's got to be a very tricky analysis given how subjective quality is. But I'm sure there are people trying to pin it down.

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helloplanets
3 hours ago
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Quality would be performance against different given benchmarks, I assume?

There's multiple open weight models you can run on a pretty standard computer at home, which match the quality of GPT 4. I guess that would also change the equation.

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coalhouse
2 hours ago
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anything that compares proprietary models will be very miscalibrated and may not be indicative, there have been too many model changes in both chat and the api where model providers did not even say the word before it got too noticable
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