The Real Story of Troy
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2 days ago
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masinini
10 minutes ago
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pretty enjoyable read for an ai generated/assisted article
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ge96
2 hours ago
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I was disappointed the horse wasn't real
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moomin
2 hours ago
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Ben Bova hypothesized that Homer was actually describing early siege towers, but given the veracity of many mundane parts of the story it seems unlikely.
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detourdog
1 hour ago
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I have also heard it described as a boat.
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readthenotes1
2 hours ago
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How do you know? It was mentioned by Homer, wasn't it?
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huxley
2 hours ago
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At least not in the Iliad though it gets short mentions in the Odyssey.

Most of what we know of it appeared in non-Homeric stories and most famously (nowadays) in Virgil.

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elmomle
1 hour ago
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That is so, but my understanding was that those later stories tie back to a lost epic (Iliupersis) that, while not officially attributed to Homer, was being sung contemporaneously with the other stories of the Trojan war cycle.
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ge96
2 hours ago
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I don't just online consensus. Need to simulate the universe's particles and rewind time like that show Devs to witness it myself.
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satvikpendem
49 minutes ago
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The show is based on a story by qntm [0] (which I submitted before to HN but sadly got no traction) who also wrote a great book recently called There Is No Antimemetics Division, to rave reviews on HN.

[0] https://qntm.org/responsibilit

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foobarian
1 hour ago
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Thpoilerth!
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jsharpe
2 hours ago
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We don't even know if Homer was real. XD
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moomin
2 hours ago
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I’ve seen it fairly convincingly argued that he wasn’t!
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zoeysmithe
1 hour ago
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Ignoring the historical record and academic consensus, its very unlikely this trick could ever work. Ancient people weren't simpletons and the logistics of it all are pretty silly.

Its just poetic fiction in what is a long form poem.

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AdmiralAsshat
58 minutes ago
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Virgil's version with Laocoön correctly guessing the plot and then being slain by Poseidon always felt to me like a later addition explicitly designed to explain "The Trojans weren't really that stupid, were they?" There's a similar undercurrent if you read Hesiod's Theogony, where Prometheus' famous "Trick at Mecone" is written as though Zeus knew it was a trick but chose the pile of bones anyway. It's as though the original story had Zeus being tricked in earnest, but later writers grew uncomfortable with the idea that their high god was so easily fooled.

With that said, it always in turn felt like the serpents' presence undermined Odysseus' claim of being clever, since from that perspective the Trojans didn't have much choice but to bring it in, or risk the ire of the gods. It's hardly a ruse if the enemy knows it's a trap but is compelled by supernatural forces to take it anyway.

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