Preserving Fisher-Price Pixter
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2 days ago
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| dmitry.gr
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Uncle_Brumpus
6 hours ago
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Thank you. This is a spectacular amount of work and information.

As someone who is interested in similar old hardware that occasionally lacks any kind of documentation (specifically cameras), I sincerely wish I had this level of patience and determination (and also understanding, I'm not really a software guy).

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AtlasBarfed
2 hours ago
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I wish there was a law that all hardware vendors had to dump a sufficient amount of documentation if they discontinue a platform such that it can be emulated.

The litmus test can be done by AI code generation in a sandbox during the period they don't have to make it open.

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genxy
1 hour ago
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Could be part of the FCC certification process, which everyone has to file.
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smusamashah
1 hour ago
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Is there any dumb LCD console like that available these days for kids? (not those retro gaming consoles). I want to buy one for my kids. It looks so good, specially because it is a dumb and simple device.

I found Pixter online but are there a little bit more capable systems like this for kids made today?

EDIT: Looks like devices by LeapFrog and VTech are the closest alternative these days so far.

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MisterTea
51 minutes ago
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Check this out: https://play.date/
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pta2002
1 hour ago
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Not sure if it’s what you’re looking for, but the playdate is pretty neat.
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mghackerlady
1 hour ago
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No, but realistically it wouldn't be hard to make something with a Pi and a touch screen of some kind
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LetsGetTechnicl
1 hour ago
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What are you looking for them to be able to do? I feel like everything these days is just some form of an iPad
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smusamashah
1 hour ago
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Just play around and learn perhaps. My kid like drawing on his LCD drawing tablet. This is more fun than that. It's like Paint Delux but in physical form. And it has games too.

I think I am going to buy a Pixter itself. Everything else today is either too limited (vtech is buttons only and its screens are too tiny for example) or too powerful.

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dmitrygr
48 minutes ago
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Pimoroni Presto (https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/presto) + some firmware you can write for fun :)
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joe_mamba
1 hour ago
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Nobody makes stuff like this anymore. You can vibecode your own using an Arduino and a pixel LCD.
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doright
1 hour ago
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> In 2000, the famous American toy company Fisher-Price released a simple drawing-oriented handheld gaming console for kids called Pixter. It featured no brain-rotting social media and focused, instead, on drawing, sketching, and educational games.

I fear that the future will increasingly be filled with people framing old/new cultural artifact X or Y in terms of whether or not it reminds them of social media.

(Not a dig at the article or the immense technical skills required to accomplish all of this)

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TruffleLabs
5 hours ago
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Thanks for the details :)

I was half expecting you to find the Pixter Color VM to be a Forth like interpreter ;)

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mghackerlady
5 hours ago
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I was expecting either that or some lobotomised Java VM since everyone was crazy about it at the time
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dmitrygr
1 hour ago
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both forth and java would have made more sense than a custom vm. not sure why they went this way on ARM. on 6502 it makes sense though. small cpu -> custom work needed
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LocalH
1 hour ago
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The "bad things" link is broken, the href attribute is mistyped as "haref"
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VladVladikoff
5 hours ago
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Wow great work and great post! love stuff like this on HN.
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joe_mamba
5 hours ago
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Always a pleasure to read your articles Dimitry, ever since I discovered your "Running Linux on an 8-bit microcontroller" project, back when I was studying electrical engineering in university. Your low-level hobby work is insane, specially on the palmOS side.
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mcphage
5 hours ago
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> If that was not enough of crotch-punch, in a desire to cut more costs, they decided to save $0.000001 per device and used the cheaper BJTs instead of FETs.

Having had coworkers who worked for Fisher-Price, using worse components to save a fraction of a cent per device seems their general MO.

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AtlasBarfed
2 hours ago
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Is this in MAME?
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dmitrygr
1 hour ago
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no, but i hope someday someone will make that happen. i provide enough info and reference material
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jcalvinowens
3 hours ago
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Yet again my plans for a productive morning have been derailed by an excellent new write up from Dmitry :)

That hand rolled DAC for the touchscreen with the eight gpio lines is hilarious.

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MSFT_Edging
5 hours ago
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I still follow Dimitry on twitter for his technical talent, as I've done some palmOS software reversing as well, but man every other post is something along the lines of "we should let X group fend for themselves in a rattlesnake pit because they don't produce value".

All to say it's a major bummer his cool work is tainted by his dehumanizing words and I wonder if he understands how he comes off to people.

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EvanAnderson
4 hours ago
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Dmitry was interviewed on the Unnamed Reverse Engineering podcast[0] a few years ago. I didn't feel like he came off at all like that in that interview, at least.

I don't interact w/ Twitter so I can't speak to anything he's written there.

[0] https://unnamedre.com/episode/2

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xyzzy_plugh
5 hours ago
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This puts it rather lightly. I stopped following him when he started posting incredibly racist memes.
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MSFT_Edging
5 hours ago
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Yeah I was trying to keep it civil for HN.

The whimsy of the PalmOS work really clashes with the incessant racism and hate.

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harrouet
4 hours ago
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Any part you are referring to? I can't find any personal attack.

I actually like his writing style. I think he just speaks his mind in full honesty and you should not interpret it as aggressivity.

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jmcgough
3 hours ago
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Took two minutes of reading his Twitter to find him comparing black people to chimpanzees.
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wholinator2
3 hours ago
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I had a stroll though his Twitter. It's just a grab bag of strawmen being summarily beaten mostly by the fact that no one is replying to challenge him.
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ryukoposting
2 hours ago
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He tried to start a shit-flinging contest with me in an HN comment thread once. Accused Zephyr RTOS of being "bloat" or something.

As a fellow embedded dev, I smile every time one of his projects shows up on HN. He's really talented. But c'mon, dude.

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latexr
4 hours ago
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> I can't find any personal attack.

Your parent comment gave a paraphrased example of discrimination against a group, not a person.

> you should not interpret it as aggressivity

Your parent comment didn’t describe it as aggressive, they described it as dehumanising. There is a colossal difference between the two. Patton Oswalt demonstrates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkKo1_RP_0c

Note: I don’t have a Twitter account nor have I ever encountered Dimitry’s writing, so I’m not commenting either way, but if you want to refute/contradict/disagree what your parent comment said, it’s important to respond to the point they made, not different ones.

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seany
3 hours ago
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What's his x handle? It doesn't seem linked from his blog
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RIMR
1 hour ago
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The guy refers to social media broadly as "brain rot" in this article, and your first question is what his handle is on the most rotten social media site on the Internet?

I'd wager he doesn't use X.

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seany
40 minutes ago
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Someone else could have answered. I found it eventually. https://x.com/dmitrygr
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