Claude Platform on AWS
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4 hours ago
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ldoughty
3 hours ago
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> The Claude Platform on AWS is a first of its kind offering for Anthropic, giving you all native Claude API features from day one. Anthropic operates the service and data is processed outside the AWS boundary.

So it's not... On AWS... ?

This statement sounds.... Backwards?

I get they have another option that is in AWS, but this continues the cryptic naming problem AWS already is overloaded with

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xyzzy123
2 hours ago
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I think the idea is that you can launder your team or product AI spend through your AWS account. This matters in Enterprise. It looks like the difference with Bedrock is that you access more "Claude platform" stuff than just the model.

More charitably, this lets an org heavy on AWS use their existing IAM / SSO / Finops processes to manage Claude stuff, this is genuinely helpful when otherwise you have to go thru several teams and build out whole new rails to adopt.

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wafflerewire
1 hour ago
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This is my day job. I couldn't get access to the Claude Platform even with a business goal justification because of the management overhead while having Anthropic model access with Bedrock.

Through AWS, assuming the underlying data governance is reasonable, this will be a much easier pill to swallow.

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stingraycharles
45 minutes ago
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> I think the idea is that you can launder your team or product AI spend through your AWS account.

This is exactly it. For any reasonably sized org, setting up new contracts with new vendors involves a lot of procurement, lawyers, negotiations, etc.

If a team can just click a button in AWS, there’s no issue.

This is a product / solution that solves an organizational problem, not a technical one.

I wouldn’t even call it a hack as much as extremely common a strategy.

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zmmmmm
1 hour ago
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yes it sounds like a hack to get access to untracked spend in corporate accounts.

In my org, I have to file a form for reimbursement if I bought a pencil for $0.25 but in AWS? spend varies by +/- $5k per month and nobody even questions it. This will definitely make it trivially easy for me to build on Anthropic's services without even telling anybody vs the hoops I would have to jump to get it paid for another way.

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zmmmmm
1 hour ago
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Yeah i think this could backfire. At the moment they have such a clear messsage with Bedrock about data governance. You now have to ask a question and probalby get approval where previously there was no question and hence no barriers.
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l5870uoo9y
43 minutes ago
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> Claude on Amazon Bedrock keeps AWS as the data processor and operates within the AWS boundary. This is a good fit for companies that have strict regional data residency requirements or need their data processed exclusively within AWS's infrastructure.

Seems like there are two different options.

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foolfoolz
2 hours ago
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there’s a top level feature in aws for investors to give out credits of like $120k of AWS spend during funding rounds. there’s min commits of spend for cheaper prices (RI). funneling costs and invoicing though aws has real benefits. aws spend monitoring is literally a sub industry with billion dollar players
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dilyevsky
1 hour ago
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The credits you get from aws in their startup program are typically not spendable on marketplace. At least what we got through YC we could not spend there. Not sure how claude is integrating, maybe it’s different here
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robot-wrangler
2 hours ago
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> The Claude Platform on AWS .. giving you all native Claude API features .. Anthropic operates the service and data is processed outside the AWS boundary. This is a good option for companies that want the full Claude Platform experience.

Does seem to be mostly about billing like others said. But it might mean cloudformation / terraform providers for claude-platform, guess that's nice.

It might make strict networking/firewall things slightly easier somehow. But for everyone who thinks the new offering is about jurisdictional matters, it's not, that's the old one:

> Claude on Amazon Bedrock keeps AWS as the data processor and operates within the AWS boundary. This is a good fit for companies that have strict regional data residency requirements or need their data processed exclusively within AWS's infrastructure.

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ceuk
2 hours ago
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A little startup I'm part of is on the AWS startup program giving us £10k in AWA credits so the more we can "proxy" through AWS the better.

We already heavily rely on anthropic models via Bedrock but I'll be interested to see if the tok/s throughout is better on this new service (or worse).

To be honest though after a quick skim, I'm unclear what other advantages this might offer over Bedrock where we can already access the models including vision etc. Will it be worth refactoring our services, all our terraform etc? Unclear at this stage, especially since Bedrock allows us to use more than just the anthropic models if needed

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albert_e
1 hour ago
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Are you sure those credits apply to this usage. Many forms of AWS credits dont cover usage of Claude models on Amazon Bedrock for instance, as all of them are billed as third party / marketplace consumption.
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goldfish3
46 minutes ago
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Waiting for them to launch Google Claude Platform (GCP).
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niwtsol
3 hours ago
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So claude.bedrock is where you run if you want complete data privacy, this - claude.aws - is just claude on/in AWS - is that the right core difference?
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abhik24
2 hours ago
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So confusing. Are they with AWS for the checkout? Because none of sentences make sense to me
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hibikir
1 hour ago
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There's companies out there with mid 8, possibly low 9 figure monthly AWS bills. In that world, letting people pay through said AWS pipeline gets rid of so much red tape. Supporting Bedrock was already a big winner vs OpenAI in the race for big enterprise, and Anthropic desperately wants to find any way to be sticky, as opposed to risking companies flipping a switch and telling entire departments to switch to any future codex + GPT on Bedrock plans. The harder it is for you to migrate, the better for Anthropic.
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whatever1
3 hours ago
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So is this effectively a way for aws customers to more easily access Claude code?

Claude itself was almost from the very beginning available in bedrock.

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wafisher
3 hours ago
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Might be for enterprise customers (with slow procurement departments) who already have AWS accounts but not Anthropic ones.
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LPisGood
3 hours ago
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So then they could use Bedrock, no?
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harrall
2 hours ago
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A lot of tools, community and Anthropic’s, have zero support for Bedrock.

Anthropic’s offerings for Bedrock lag behind their main platform by months, maybe up to a year or more.

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ZeroCool2u
2 hours ago
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Bedrock is both more expensive, less feature complete, and less reliable in terms of raw volume of 500 errors.
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tukHelix
1 hour ago
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It sounds like an “official” Anthropic API billed from an AWS account?
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notaharvardmba
3 hours ago
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It allows one to conveniently hide your claude expense in your big ass AWS bill.
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nijave
3 hours ago
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I tried that with Bedrock but Claude models are billed through Marketplace and generate a completely separate invoice.

Suspect this is probably the same.

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notaharvardmba
1 hour ago
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Need to just pay all your other vendors through marketplace too!
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nadermx
2 hours ago
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How's this work? Like if I want to self host claude on my gpu's? Do I just pay a one time lease?
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monkpit
1 hour ago
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This offering is purely a billing formality, not a way to run inference on your hardware.
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SegfaultSeagull
1 hour ago
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"Claude in the cloud" has a nice ring to it.
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cavemanDigAI
2 hours ago
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Interesting timing - been building with Claude API locally and hit AWS infra questions.

Anyone know if this solves cross-region failover? Main pain point I have is US vs EU latency differences when running agents in parallel. Local orchestration helps but cloud fallback would be useful.

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nryoo
3 hours ago
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So what's the good point?
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Jabrov
2 hours ago
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Hide some of your ballooning AI spend behind your ballooning AWS bill
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dodu_
2 hours ago
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But then how would I be able to brag about how much I'm doing the AI?
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walrus01
1 hour ago
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Don't worry, you can still get on linkedin and write a bragging post about how many tokens your engineers are spending.
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SilverElfin
2 hours ago
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Couldn’t you already do that with Claude via AWS?
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rohansood15
2 hours ago
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But you couldn't do it with the Claude app or the recently announced Claude Managed Agents I think.
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breckenedge
4 hours ago
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Nice, might give managed agents a try now.
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xyst
3 hours ago
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How to obscure your wasteful LLM usage behind your already massive AWS expenditure with this one tip.
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geedelgado
2 hours ago
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Might be good?
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rohansood15
2 hours ago
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Umm, why could this not just be Claude on AWS marketplace?

Seems intentionally deceitful.

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SilverElfin
2 hours ago
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Is this a bunch of AI coded slop? I feel like everyone should be skeptical of how quickly Anthropic is throwing random things out there. Why would anyone use this instead of using Claude directly on AWS?
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8note
2 hours ago
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anthropic and aws have been pretty close from the start

i think the more interesting part is that anthropic is to aws what target was to amazon

this feels like there's a coming 5-10 year change from aws acting as a cloud, to being a cloud entrypoint/marketplace, separately from the cloud marketplace they already have as cfn snippets you can deploy

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vivzkestrel
2 hours ago
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this is a bad bad idea people, i highly recommend not falling for this one. You dont wanna see your production database get deleted by mistake or spawn 464135453452 ec2 instances due to a mistake in autoscaling configuration
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Jabrov
2 hours ago
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I think you might have misunderstood the headline and maybe not read the article, because that's not really relevant to what's being announced here
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