Claude for Small Business
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1 hour ago
| 13 comments
| anthropic.com
| HN
arjie
58 minutes ago
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I understand why this is a good idea. I have Claude Code hooked up to my mail synced via IMAP, my Mercury read-only token, and beancount, and it gets almost all of my invoices and categorizes them. The tedious portion for a lot of this is:

* find invoice I_E for expense E

* associate and categorize E based on I_E and transaction field

These things are annoying but Claude Code is great at it and it leaves a much smaller set I have to manually resolve. This is a class of problems that are tractable and checkable, which I happily use LLMs on. If it miscategorizes it, I'm going to see it because I'm looking over the accounts. In fact, I was previously using a different accounting app which had poor API support, so I dumped it so I could use Claude and it's incredible how much this helps me.

There is an enormous number of use-cases that Claude/GPT are good for and the hard part is market penetration here. As an example, my dad was looking at some statistical health survey data in India and working out what things you could glean from it. Claude identified the things that would complicate his analysis in no time. He's 70 years old, and he'd done it all manually until he asked me (I've got a Mathematics degree) if something made statistical sense to do. I told him what it likely was and then asked him to try Claude. Knocked out his work and mine in moments. But he didn't think to use it. Now I have to get him a ChatGPT/Claude subscription.

It's like how if you go to the Datadog pricing page they don't list a feature set. They have all these use-case lists with prices. You can build things using their base metrics functionality and logs functionality but showing the use-cases must have more adoption.

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hommelix
29 minutes ago
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By coincidence, I've looked yesterday a small documentary [1] about the people tagging all those invoices to train theses models. For 120 €/month they are reading about 1000 to 4000 invoices per day and check and tag them for AI training.

[1] https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/126831-000-A/arte-reportage/

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jryio
1 hour ago
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I run a s business (small if you compare it to tech companies).

I can tell you the drag is between your own tools and the real world (which is very messy and inconsistent): taxes, compliance, payroll, amendments, share structures, etc.

Within my island, my books are in order, invoices and time keeping is fully automated, calendars and sales pipelines are connected.

I'm sure there are many businesses whose inner islands are not as orderly. The zillion tools out there all try to bring equanimity to the chaos and yet here we still are with fresh books, quickbooks, and xero...

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cik
3 minutes ago
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A deacde ago Xero, Shoeboxed, Calendly, Payment Evolution, and a time tracker eliminated all my overhead.

I scaled to 30+ people with automated administration. My cost was under $150 a month for everything we needed to run a successful consultancy and product business. Our accountant was blown away by how simple his life was.

I'm constantly amazed at how it has gotten much worse in the resulting decade.

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SoftTalker
1 hour ago
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Waiting to hear the stories of things Claude did running amok in Quickbooks.
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bontaq
58 minutes ago
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It's a fascinating angle they've taken to give Claude your payroll. I guess we've reached this part of the AI race and they're running ahead of people realizing what it can do.
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chasebank
1 hour ago
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FYI, the definition of small business in the US is fewer than 500 employees.
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ycombinete
7 minutes ago
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[delayed]
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esperent
34 minutes ago
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Damn, that's an order of magnitude higher than the rest of the world.

Never in my life would I have thought a business with more than 100 employees could be considered small. In the EU the cutoff is 50.

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ClassicPaterson
1 hour ago
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Kinda weird to assume that a "small" business would have $16.9m cash on hand...
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jdlshore
45 minutes ago
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Small businesses are bigger than you think they are. A company with $100 million revenue per year could still be a small business.

You might be assuming small businesses have less than ten people. That’s a category of small business called a “micro-business” or microenterprise, depending on funding model.

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ido
39 minutes ago
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Had to look it up, but instagram had 13 employees when they sold to Facebook for $1 billion (for some reason I remembered them being 9 people). I know multiple gale devs who had single digit (or low double digits) staff when they were already making many millions in revenue/profit.
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vld_chk
49 minutes ago
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Anthropic vs OAI fierce competition, maybe, the most intense we have seen in capitalism history. They can’t let breathe each other. One declare free Codex for businesses to adopt, and a set of agents. Another instantly rolling out new products in the same niche. Heck, they even start to release their models in the same day. We just in middle May and it is already which product release from each of them?

In books of the future, if we ever hold one, I think this will be studied a lot. We have seen before competitions and rivals, but they mostly were rivalry of craft. Here it is a rivalry of velocity and reach. Who can first target user with whatever they have ready to offer.

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applfanboysbgon
42 minutes ago
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It's an inconsequential competition because both are giving away products that are somewhere between non-functional and barely-functional while torching a mountain of borrowed money. Both will go bankrupt if not bailed out by the government.
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falcor84
27 minutes ago
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I don't know what frustrations you have, but the impact of Claude (and particularly Claude Code) on my productivity over the last year has been astronomical. If there wasn't this fierce competition, and I had to pay 10 times as much, I still gladly would.
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unshavedyak
4 minutes ago
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$2k/m[1] is not something i could stomache for the quality i get from Claude Code, personally. I'm curious what your base number is for your 10x figure.

[1]: 10x my $200/m bill

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rohansood15
14 minutes ago
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How do you define your productivity? Are you astronomically richer and/or freer now that you're so much more productive?
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falcor84
3 minutes ago
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No, not yet astronomically richer. I'm working on it, but a part of the reason why I haven't yet broken all my bones from repeatedly diving into a pool of money is The Red Queen's Race. With how much easier it is to write code and realize your vision, coupled with how jaded we've all become, the bar is just much higher. But I'm pretty certain that if I had this sort of capability even just 3 years ago, and others didn't, I would have been like a Kryptonian under a yellow sun.
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yfw
18 minutes ago
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Great so how many of you are there to keep these cash incinerators afloat?
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applfanboysbgon
8 minutes ago
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Setting aside my personal grievances with their vibe-coded slop products surrounding the model, the problem for Anthropic is that they do need to charge 10 times as much for model access, but can't because DeepSeek exists and can actually be sustainably served at $20/mo. LLMs are certainly here to stay, for better or worse, but the people going hundreds of billions of dollars into debt perhaps not so much. (Unless the US govt decides it's worth propping them up for access to a billion people's conversations and ability to influence them, which I do believe is a plausible outcome, but would not necessarily make for a riveting tale of capitalist competition)
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chairmansteve
32 minutes ago
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Yeah. There were books written about Enron and Worldcom...
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ido
46 minutes ago
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AMD and Intel in the late 90s/early 00s? Remember the race to 1Ghz (and leaving Motorola and IBM behind with the PPC)?
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regexorcist
37 minutes ago
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It's mostly marketing and hype. This "product" is a collection of vibecoded skills.
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simianwords
1 hour ago
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What's new here? It looks good - accessing connectors using Claude but not sure whether there's something fundamentally novel
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neuronexmachina
52 minutes ago
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simianwords
40 minutes ago
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Looks useful, so they are new plugins. But what are plugins vs skills vs connectors?
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didibus
28 minutes ago
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A plugin is just a bundle of MCPs, skills and templated prompts.

A skill cannot provide MCPs and can't provide custom template prompts, each skill is it's own slash command.

A plugin you can define N number of custom slash commands, and you can define MCPs as well as skills. So it bundles like all the things together.

By installing a plugin, you are basically installing a bunch of MCPs, skills and custom slash command prompts.

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SilverElfin
1 hour ago
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Isn’t Cowork a tough thing to trust? What if it goes wrong, especially in the hands of users that aren’t programmers? Anthropic is releasing these vibe codes products continuously and I feel like it’s only a matter of time before something goes wrong. Shouldn’t they focus on safety and security first before releasing these?
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8note
45 minutes ago
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theres a pretty clear underlying system somebody needs to make "git for business"
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teekert
27 minutes ago
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ZFS?
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yowlingcat
23 minutes ago
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I've been really enjoying claude design but my biggest critique of it (and frankly how vanilla claude handles files in general) is that it has no native conception of git-like version control. In code land you can work around this with harnesses so there's only so much harm claude code/opencode can do, but to your point in small biz land when it's putzing around with a system of record without rewindability, things could get really messy really fast.

A couple more thoughts here - the hard part is not just the data side of it, it's replaying/unplaying actions. Many actions are non-reversible. Code is clean in the same way that google docs is clean. But for many business processes, some actions just can't be unwound once started. If claude initiates a wire that it shouldn't, no amount of git technology will undo that wire.

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nurettin
20 minutes ago
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I had a trust issue up to opus 4.6

Now I have claude hooked up to a dozen projects I used to maintain manually. It is such a pleasure watch it read the complaint and go to town on small problems without dropping any databases or removing home dirs.

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yfw
19 minutes ago
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Havent removed it yet. What recourse do you have if it does? Can you hold anthropic accountable?
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mindmesh
1 hour ago
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This feels like the natural evolution of productivity software: fewer dashboards, more context-aware workflows.
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sergiotapia
13 minutes ago
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>Planning payroll with confidence. Settle your QuickBooks cash position against incoming PayPal settlements, build a 30-day forecast, rank what's overdue, and queue the reminders for you to approve and send.

Am I too close to AI that this sounds fucking crazy to me? In no world would I give Claude or any AI agent direct write access to financial operations like payouts/settlements.

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divbzero
4 minutes ago
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All of those tasks—planning payroll, settling books, forecasting, ranking, reminding—involve read access to financial operations, not write access.
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devmor
1 hour ago
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If I heard my employer was using Claude to manage payroll, I’d be looking for a new job - quickly.
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tjpnz
41 minutes ago
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If I've learned anything in my career it's that you'll find your most dependable people in payroll.
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