Claude AI recovers an 11 yrs old BTC wallet holding 400k USD
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atonse
3 hours ago
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I have a similar claude story (much less money though), with the IRS R&D tax credit. The auditing firm initially said we qualify for $0. But then I had claude analyze past R&D reports and our expenses and it found the problem. The auditor had miscategorized our company.

So claude drafted an email even pointing to the right Internal Revenue Code (IRS Law), and specify why we fall under a specific category. The auditor got back to me two days later admitting their mistake and said our company now qualifies for $8k in tax credits. And a few months ago, it identified items in our AWS that saved us $250 a month (paying for itself).

So now I joke that even if I have a claude max plan, I've still come out ahead financially.

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binkHN
2 hours ago
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> So now I joke that even if I have a claude max plan, I've still come out ahead financially.

This is no joke; for better or worse, I see a day when I'm paying a lot more for this and it will be a bargain.

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baq
2 hours ago
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I've seen this day sometime in December and not only with Claude. Wish I was joking on some days, feeling exhilarated on others.
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wolttam
2 hours ago
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By my estimation (guess) you won't actually need to spend that much because the models are already getting a point where they don't need to get a whole lot better to be extremely helpful across many domains.

And it looks like those very helpful capabilities will continue to transfer to smaller models as well, as architectures and training regimes continue to refine.

I can fairly easily imagine a world where the only people needing to spend a lot of money on models are those that are using them to solve truly novel problems. The rest of us will get plenty of use at reasonable costs for the typical day-to-day helpful stuff.

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rectang
58 minutes ago
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In my anecdotal experience there is a huge gap between GPT-5-mini which hallucinates relentlessly and Claude Opus or the latest GPTs which are fairly reliable. I'm hoping that gap can be closed with improved approaches for small models and that good reliability is achievable for LLMs without requiring absolutely mammoth computing resources.

For what it's worth, I also used GPT-5.2 (via duck.ai) this year for questions about taxes and it was helpful — which makes sense because there's an abundance of material about taxes out there to be synthesized, so a text predictor trained in that domain should do well.

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hypercube33
2 hours ago
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All we need is something like Qwen3-coder-next but at Kimi K2.6 ability so it runs on laptop workstation hardware and we are set...soon?
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wolttam
2 hours ago
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In 2023 GPT-4 was allegedly 1.8T parameters. In 2026 we have ~100x smaller models (10-20B) that handily outperform it, and can indeed run on a laptop.
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WanderPanda
15 minutes ago
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It highly depends on the task. For math and coding, sure. But for knowledge tasks GPT-4 is wayy better than even SOTA ~100B models. For my knowledge test cases the lines get blurry at >400B
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rectang
47 minutes ago
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How does "outperform" translate to the propensity of an LLM to hallucinate?
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operatingthetan
44 minutes ago
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There seems to be a mass delusion about how capable SOTA models actually are. That's my only explanation for how poorly I find them performing in basic knowledge tasks compared to how others describe their prowess.
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rectang
35 minutes ago
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I understand you to be implying that I shouldn't trust my perception that there's a meaningful difference in how much different models hallucinate. I will take that under advisement, but I am still interested in the answer to my original question.
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operatingthetan
32 minutes ago
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>I understand you to be implying that I shouldn't trust my perception that there's a meaningful difference in how much different models hallucinate.

Nope. Also I'm not GP.

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unshavedyak
1 hour ago
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I am eagerly awaiting being able to run a strong local model. I'd hand Apple $5k right now for a Claude in a box. I know the cost might not be there now, just saying that is around my ideal price point.

$10k might even be worth it - but i'm assuming that the more expensive it is the beefier it is too, which also means more electricity.. and i already run ~6 computers/servers in my house. If a power surge happens i'm going to go live in the woods lol.

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atonse
53 minutes ago
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I would do the same but my issue is that the models are changing so fast, so I don't want to be left out of the next model cuz it only runs on an even newer GPU or something like that.

But maybe my limited understanding is thinking of this wrong.

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DANmode
1 hour ago
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You can run 6-12 month old state of the art models for that type of money,

like, yesterday.

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Barbing
1 hour ago
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[sci-fi “AGI” scenario] What if those with elite model access philosophize in a way us mere mortals can’t understand, so the elites have to prechew the ideas for us to bring them to our level, and they control the narrative?

In reality now, curious about social implications generally. Does this go beyond problem solving? Maybe the intelligence per token you get via your free library card/membership is insufficient to compete with peers in dating/employment/etc. markets, thus puts you at disadvantage.

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unixhero
58 minutes ago
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That isn't really philosophy, but rather doom and gloom theories. Control the narrative on what exactly, how I write a bootstrap script for my servers? Or what type of flower is in this photo. Not everything is politics luckily.
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nolok
3 hours ago
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To be fair regarding taxes it should be that you get all exemptions by default and the other side telling/justifying you why you don't qualify, instead of you not getting the things you should because you're not sure how to interpret the law or don't know this or that rule exists. Taxes shouldn't be that difficult, and the US version of it seems to be behind even the one I have here in europe (where my taxes are done "for me" for anything non business owner related). If the government is calculating your taxes anyway, they should just give the number to you instead of asking you a number and you better have the same as us or you're guilty of something.

Feels like a system that is deliberatly made to be more punishing for those who can't afford the help or the education to figure things out.

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atonse
2 hours ago
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I would agree with you on most situations (like 1040 personal income taxes especially).

But in this particular tax credit, there's no way for the gov to know automatically what percentage of payroll was spent in qualified R&D expenses, since it's day to day business operations. Which is why we are _forced_ to hire an outside firm and pay them thousands of dollars (when Claude did an even better job), just to analyze how much of our time qualified as R&D expenses.

The problem I have is that I am forced to have to find a firm to do this, and most firms won't even work with companies as small as ours. So then we're stuck and losing out on years of R&D tax credits at the moment, when I really don't need them anymore, to be honest.

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simonh
3 hours ago
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Or punishing to those that don’t pay for software and services to the companies that lobby for it to be this way.
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chasd00
1 hour ago
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i saw a meme once like:

IRS> Pay your taxes!

me> ok how much?

IRS> idk you have to figure it out

me> ...ok

IRS> if you get it wrong you goto jail

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twobitshifter
1 hour ago
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I remember a different ending

me> so you don’t know how much I owe?

IRS> no, we do…

me> ...ok

IRS> if you get it wrong you goto jail

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anon291
1 hour ago
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Same... I had chatgpt go over my taxes (I do it myself) and it found a number of savings I qualified for
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gonzalohm
1 hour ago
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Can you explain the steps you followed? Did you just feed it the whole return?
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anon291
1 hour ago
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Kind of. I first of all did the entire return with it. So we went step by step and yes I fed the forms one at a time. So I filled in 1040 as best I could. Then just asked it what to do next at each step. It helps I've done it before so most of the steps it returned were ones I've done before. However, it did mention several things that I had not heard of, and also some new taxes that I had to file due to some exceptional events last year. So all in all, a solid use case. This year I have an accountant, but it saved my butt this last year, and I will absolutely run through my accountants decisions with it. It has an encyclopedic knowledge and an immense capability to understand without getting tired.
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sitzkrieg
47 minutes ago
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very trustworthy of the system sharing your taxes with a third party
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notRobot
3 hours ago
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Claude Code is really good at stuff like this. The other day I tried to recover some images from an SD card that had gone bad. I used GetDataBack to recover files, but they appeared to be malformed and didn't open in image viewers.

I tasked Claude to analyze the files and figure out what's going on, and eventually we figured out that each file had a custom metadata header + thumbnail + actual image concatenated. I had it write a python script and was able to recover all the images with their metadata. It's nothing a human couldn't have figured out, but it was definitely WAY faster than doing it myself.

I've also used Claude in the past to figure out how to break into routers with locked down firmware. It's great at suggesting and trying different approaches.

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michaelbuckbee
3 hours ago
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I have a friend that just picked up a new consulting job resurrecting an ancient Windows desktop application. No source control, no tests. And it's spread out over a dozen different folders with names like "_old", "_new" and "dates". Claude's doing a tremendous job in getting him to grips with what is actually happening in the application, what's relevant, what's not, what's different. I think it's literally saving him days and days at work.
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0123456789ABCDE
2 hours ago
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if your friend has access to the binary and can pull it out to different box, they might get a lot out of a ghidra mcp -> https://github.com/LaurieWired/GhidraMCP
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speff
2 hours ago
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I'm not well versed at reverse engineering binaries or interpreting C/assembly so ghidra MCP has been an absolute gamechanger for helping me write tools. Once my project is complete, I plan to learn how to do the analysis myself manually and have cc guide me along the way.
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ecommerceguy
3 hours ago
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I think it would be interesting, once the dust has settled, to do a compare with a less expensive model (time, capital, compute) such as deepseek 4.
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shimman
2 hours ago
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Any reason to expect that this wouldn't work 100%? It's not like the different LLMs providers are that technically different from one another.
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baq
1 hour ago
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no such thing as closed source software anymore, just fully open and not quite fully open nowadays.
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locknitpicker
3 hours ago
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> I have a friend that just picked up a new consulting job resurrecting an ancient Windows desktop application. No source control, no tests. And it's spread out over a dozen different folders with names like "_old", "_new" and "dates".

That doesn't sound very impressive. Not being tracked with a version control system is fixed instantly with a git init, git add ., git commit .no AI required.

Covering the app with tests is also something that requires no AI. At most, coding agents can generate characterization tests in broad sweeps, but we are talking about a delta between hand rolling and vibe-coding of a couple of days.

Where LLM shines is helping developers build up an understanding of what is in place. Running /explain on a codebase can quickly provide you with a high level summary of what's in place.

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michaelbuckbee
2 hours ago
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The relevancy here is that he's denied the git history, versioning, branches, implicit documentation that even bad source control practices would have given him.
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gcr
2 hours ago
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That's what the comment is saying. In normal repositories, version control acts as a record of the momentum of the direction the product was taking. If it's just "_old" and "_new," the developer has to read and understand both, which I think is going to be far more time consuming than your estimation.
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tucaz
3 hours ago
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I did EXACTLY that last night. Was doing by hand for about an hour and got to a point where I didn’t feel competent anymore and asked Claude to take from where I was.

5 minutes later I had almost 3 hours of important footage recovered.

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arm32
3 hours ago
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I'm sure data recovery companies are pretty pissed that slightly esoteric data recovery abilities are becoming more accessible for average software devs. They were charging an arm and a leg to remote in and run scripts.
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morpheuskafka
3 hours ago
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They still have two important moats: (1) expensive hardware tools (even stuff like SATA write blockers are kind of expensive for what they are), spare hard drive collections to swap failed PCBs, etc and (2) the "nobody got fired for hiring us" edge similar to how everyone calls in Crowdstrike/Mandiant after an incident. If a suit-level manager finds out customer data was lost, they are going to want to call in an expert so they can immediately tell the customer they did, not have the same internal team try to figure it out.
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kotaKat
2 hours ago
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As an aside to #1: The cool thing is in modern times the hardware tools have come down stupidly cheap in price. Even SD card recovery is (vaguely) in the right skilled hands in a pseudo-professional home lab these days.

https://blog.acelab.eu.com/pc-3000-flash-spider-board-adapte...

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brunoborges
2 hours ago
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> Claude Code is really good at stuff like this.

A lot of "Claude Code is best at X" claims are probably user-selection bias.

The people saying it are often exclusively Claude Code users, not people who are actively benchmarking Claude Code against Gemini CLI, OpenAI Codex, GitHub Copilot, and other agent harnesses on the same tasks.

The claim may still be true for certain scenarios, but the evidence is usually anecdotal, not comparative.

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gcr
2 hours ago
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When I hear "claude code one-shotted X" and X is a novel problem, I mentally substituted "the agentic harness that I tried one-shotted X," since that's what they're saying.

Getting any smart model to take a look at the task is the sort of lift that the speaker is usually pointing to.

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throwaway041207
2 hours ago
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Parent didn't say Claude Code is best at anything?
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jackconsidine
3 hours ago
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> Their luck changed for the better when they found an old mnemonic seed phrase written in an old college notebook

TBF the real breakthrough was finding this, though no doubt they couldn't have recovered without Claude

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throwa356262
2 hours ago
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Pretty much every AI win story feels like this.
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bink
1 hour ago
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The guy also had to plug in an old hard drive for Claude to search. Sounds like he had an idea the wallet was on there to begin with.
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paxys
1 hour ago
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I bet the majority of people reading this really think Claude cracked the encryption.
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john_strinlai
1 hour ago
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i bet the majority of people reading this will reach the 1st line of the 2nd paragarph, and not think that claude cracked the encryption
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tifik
47 minutes ago
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I don't have the data but I don't think most people look past the title.
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qup
35 minutes ago
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Aren't those people filtered out when he says "majority of people reading this"?
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tifik
22 minutes ago
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I assumed 'this' refers to the title. That may have been incorrect.
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giancarlostoro
3 hours ago
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> Bitcoin trader recovers $400,000 using Claude AI after getting 'stoned' and losing wallet password 11 years ago — bot tried 3.5 trillion passwords before decrypting an old wallet backup

Man. I wish I had a lost wallet worth a quarter of that even, technically didn't need Claude for this, just needed any password cracking software.

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ApolloFortyNine
3 hours ago
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Explaining your life to an llm, then having it generate permutations of passwords to try does sound like it would work a decent percentage of the time.

A large percentage of passwords aren't a random string of characters but a memorable word + memorable number. There's existing projects that basically do the same, and 3.5 trillion doesn't really make it clear if one of those wouldn't have worked as well, but I can see it having an above random chance to guess a password.

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nonethewiser
23 minutes ago
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>Explaining your life to an llm, then having it generate permutations of passwords to try does sound like it would work a decent percentage of the time.

I cannot relate to this at all. This information doesn't really seem that helpful. What might the strategy look like? Including spouses names or other proper nouns associated with you. But it's going to be a massive brute force effort still, and the likelyhood of a targeted crack that performs significantly better than more naive brute force passwords seems so unlikely.

Are your passwords like "SPOUSE_NAME:HOMETOWN_NAME"? Even if so there are probably more people with dictionary words that can be brute forced faster. IT would have to be the case that more people use patterns like that compared to something a regular dictionary attack could crack.

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nilamo
1 hour ago
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The idea that someone (the NSA?) is training models on all of our collected info, and using that to predict all of our hidden information, is horrifying.

The best time to start using a password manager was 10 years ago. The second best time is now.

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chromadon
16 minutes ago
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If any authority wants your data, a password isn't whats stopping them.
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WarmWash
1 hour ago
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I had a high school friend that died about 10 years ago from an over dose. He was always tech forward and had talked in the past about getting drugs from the dark web to sell locally.

I wasn't particularly close with him after high school, but he was an only child, and I can only imagine his (older) parents just tossed his computer. I wouldn't be surprised if he had had a few hundred BTC on there.

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cj
20 minutes ago
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That’s assuming he was smart enough to move his coins out of Mt Gox or whichever, now hacked, exchange he used at the time. (I wasn’t!)
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leros
1 hour ago
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I have a lost wallet with about 300 Bitcoin sitting in a landfill somewhere. I tried out Bitcoin really early on and mined those over a few weeks. But they were worthless back then and I was burning electricity for "nothing" so I stopped. This was before that 10k Bitcoin pizza purchase happened. I have some regrets lol.
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ZeWaka
36 minutes ago
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Don't worry, we were also giving out millions (or more!) of dogecoin as tips on Reddit. Can't really get hung up on crypto shit.
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paulpauper
10 minutes ago
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have you tried to get the city to excavate it ? lol
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JKCalhoun
1 hour ago
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> …recovers $400,000 using Claude AI after getting 'stoned' and losing wallet password 11 years ago

I had to laugh: the most Bitcoin story ever.

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nso
1 hour ago
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Someone gifted me 87 bitcoins back when they were worth ~0. They are still in some wallet somewhere I guess, and I saved the password on a harddrive I threw out around the same time
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afzalive
10 minutes ago
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For 9.7 million, I would spend a considerable amount of time trying to recover that.
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stavros
3 hours ago
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I'm really thankful I put my bitcoin in a time vault back in 2012 or so. It was inaccessible until about last year, and my $10 is now worth $100k.

Thank you MtGox.

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keeda
2 hours ago
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Way back in the day when Bitcoin first came about, I once idly contemplated spending some time and money on it just because it was a very cool technology. At the time it was a bit of a hassle because you had to mine your own.

Then I was especially tempted years later after running into the MtGox booth at CES, and seeing how convenient it had become. I remember asking a guy at the booth if Satoshi was really still anonymous or if any insiders knew about him, and he said "no" but was bit surprised I knew about Satoshi. I guess Bitcoin was still quite niche then even amongst a technical crowd.

I considered buying a few bucks worth of bitcoin then for lulz, but I thought that money was better spent on beer lol.

I've never really regretted spending that money on beer rather than bitcoin, because I knew that even if I did, it would 100% have been on MtGox and I would have lost it in the hack anyway, which would have been even more bitterly frustrating.

A few of pints of beer >> years of regret.

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echelon_musk
1 hour ago
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A friend lost £2000 worth of BTC in MtGox which is probably worth a fortune at today's prices. The last time I spoke with him he said there was some sort of lawsuit for victim compensation. How did you recover your funds?
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stavros
1 hour ago
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They emailed us during the course of the lawsuit, I followed the instructions and they sent me maybe half my BTC in the end.
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bavell
3 hours ago
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> MtGox

Whew, that brings me back!

I still think about the Bitcoin my buddy paid me for his half of a pizza ~15 years ago... worth 6 figures now haha.

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matheusmoreira
1 hour ago
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I have a cousin who received around 2 BTC after playing some cards with some people. Wasn't worth much at the time. He sold the coins immediately.

Better not to dwell on such things.

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unshavedyak
1 hour ago
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Yup. I was really close to buying $1000 (at $1) worth of BTC ages ago. I don't dwell because the stress of managing that through time would have eaten me away lol.

With that said, i do regret not at least mining/etc. Back then i could have mined in many ways, and getting into it as a hobby probably would have meant holding larger amounts of BTC in the long run.

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zahlman
57 minutes ago
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I remember thinking about buying $100 (at $10). And then realizing I didn't actually know how to do it and didn't feel like looking it up or going through whatever steps to do that kind of transaction online, or worrying about getting scammed....
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andai
3 hours ago
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Nice, congrats. What's a time vault?
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Ccecil
3 hours ago
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It's sarcasm.

Everyone who had coin in Mt.Gox lost it during a hack. A portion of that was returned to the users who had a loss about a year ago.

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baggachipz
3 hours ago
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Yeah my 100 stolen bitcoins got me a cool $4k check from the settlement. Definitely made whole by that :|
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stavros
31 minutes ago
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I think you would have been much better off choosing the bitcoin option. You'd have gotten around 40 BTC back, I think.
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spindump8930
3 hours ago
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Likely in this case the time vault was the collapse of Mt Gox, which has now recently been paying back holders.
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stavros
3 hours ago
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It's something that locks your stuff so you can't access it for a while.
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DonHopkins
2 hours ago
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If he was stoned, he would have probably spent his three bitcoins on pizza anyway.

The first pizza anybody bought that way cost 10,000 bitcoin, over $billion.

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zahlman
56 minutes ago
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>over $billion.

BTCUSD has been over 100k, but is not currently.

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jiscariot
55 minutes ago
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Still, they didn’t give up because that wallet contained 5 BTC; this may not sound much, but it has a value of almost $400,000.

They are really underestimating their audiance here.

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wahnfrieden
46 minutes ago
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They are not though, because this audience is apparently eager to gobble up fake clickbait.
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hn937758
3 hours ago
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I was making a long edit in a crappy wiki UI and my browser froze. It would have taken a long time to redo, hours.

I didn't want to take the chance of force closing and losing everything. I used claude code to extract my text out of the browser internals and filesystem objects.

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kccqzy
2 hours ago
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I did this a long time ago before the age of AI. Core dump and then run strings on it. Very low tech but very useful!
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mizzao
2 hours ago
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How do you use Claude Code to access your browser memory?
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dnnddidiej
1 hour ago
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Guessing it gave JS to drop into console.
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hn937758
2 hours ago
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I'd have to go back and look. It was 100% vibe coded.
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vibe42
3 hours ago
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Many crypto wallets use a key derivation function (KDF) to add an amount of computation (and memory usage) per password tried - to mitigate brute force of weak passwords.

The increase in compute (decrease in brute-force cost) combined with price increases in many crypto tokens means brute-forcing old wallets can become worth it years after passwords were forgotten.

And of course even smaller, local AI models can now easily write optimized scripts to brute-force any given KDF function.

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ndr
3 hours ago
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how can that possibly work while supporting offline backup & restore?
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_ache_
1 hour ago
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The compute power needed use to be of the order of 5s per password try. So it effectively mitigate brute force back them, you need a absurd compute power to crack them.

Moore law did its thing, now you can do it with a lot less computer power.

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oxqbldpxo
1 hour ago
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This sounds like an Ad, why would you tell the world about this? Too coincidential.
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htx80nerd
1 hour ago
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claude ads hot off the presses.
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enraged_camel
36 minutes ago
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The amount of pure conspiratorial thinking will never cease to amaze me.
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tiffanyh
2 hours ago
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I'm no expert but using an old wallet with a changed password, and it working, seems like a major security design flaw.

In the physical world, I can't imagine too many people being happy that old keys to your house still work even after you've changed the locks.

Can someone more informed, help me understand how this worked and why it's ok.

I'm genuinely wanting to become more informed & better understand.

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kccqzy
2 hours ago
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A wallet is just private keys of some specific public keys on the blockchain that have unspent output (UTXO). None of what’s described in this article involves the blockchain, only the storage and protection of the private keys on a local computer.

You can imagine that in your example, you didn’t change the locks on a house, but rather you put the house keys in a secure lock box and you changed the locks on this box.

Changing the locks on a house in this case means transferring from an old wallet to a new wallet and then abandoning the old wallet. That’s exactly what the OP is trying to do. It’s just that you need the original key to do it.

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bornfreddy
2 hours ago
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They didn't lose the key, they just didn't know which one is the correct one, where the lock is, and how the unlocking is done.
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glitchc
2 hours ago
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The wallet is akin to a lockbox holding your keys to the house. Breaking into the lockbox and changing it's lock does not affect the keys kept inside.
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dnnddidiej
1 hour ago
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Lol great intersection of AI, Crypto and blind luck.

By getting stoned he was forced to hold until AI could solve his problem at a crypto high.

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tracker1
1 hour ago
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Kind of cool to hear... I had a couple computers running miners at home towards the end of my second marriage (which ended in 2010-2011), and after I had a few coins when realizing I couldn't actually spend them (IIRC $0.25 at the time), I just deleted the wallets. I had no foresight or faith that they'd be worth around $100k each in 15 years. I'm curious how many did the same, how many coins out there were just deleted altogether.
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chasd00
1 hour ago
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i distinctly remember a coworker many years ago offering to just give me like 10 bitcoin to see them and how it worked. i said "no, thanks". granted, hindsight is 20/20
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nothrowaways
1 hour ago
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Too many claude ads on this website
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sillysaurusx
2 hours ago
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There’s an interesting ethical question here.

The other day, I asked Claude to track down the leaked Claude Code source so I could study it. It refused, saying “given who made me, I’ll pass.” It gave me some pointers on how to find it myself, which worked.

There isn’t that much of a difference between “help me crack this bitcoin wallet” and “help me crack this executable.”

I don’t exactly have a solid point, just some general observations. First, I think we’ll see AI more and more simply refuse to do any kind of forensics, as forensics becomes more powerful. Second, that implies local models will become more valuable, since they’re the only ones willing to do that kind of work.

I once got myself banned from Claude by researching barbiturates, since they’re connected with suicide. So my third observation is that we’ll see an uptick in people getting punished for trying to do things with AI that people don’t usually do. (Luckily the unban form worked.)

Someone downthread asked “how’d he convince Claude the coins weren’t stolen?” Which is an interesting question, because presumably some people trying to crack a wallet have stolen it. So I guess the fourth observation is that the exact framing you approach an AI with will become more important. There was the classic “do this or I’ll cut off my arm,” which worked a year ago. But in the future it will be more like “hopefully the AI believes my story, or else I’ll get into trouble.”

It’s good there are multiple AI vendors, or else it’d get real dystopian real fast when the de facto AI’s policy becomes something you have no way of working around.

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My_Name
3 hours ago
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I spent a couple of days mining many years ago and got 2 bitcoins. At the time, they weren't worth the electricity they cost to mine and over time I lost the wallet and all information related to it.

I'd love to mine a bitcoin a day on my PC now...

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jmuguy
2 hours ago
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My wife doesn't like it when I tell the story of the hard drive I threw away with a wallet with 2 dozen BTC on it.

But lets be honest - when BTC hit 100 bucks, we would have cashed it out thinking we were geniuses.

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throwaway041207
2 hours ago
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Yep, I timed the top of the market perfectly and cashed out 5 BTC at ~$80/BTC.
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fileeditview
2 hours ago
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You are better than me. Back when you could mine BTC with the CPU, i had about 2 coins. I found it useless and silly and deleted my wallet at some point :)
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fsckboy
2 hours ago
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>they weren't worth the electricity they cost to mine...I'd love to mine a bitcoin a day on my PC now...

you can!... but they wouldn't be worth the electricity now either. the cost of mining (amortization of hardware costs plus electricty) is the value of bitcoin. if bitcoins are a bargain to mine, more people will mine them thereby reducing rewards.

should you have mined more back then if you had magical perfect knowledge of the future? no: they weren't worth the electricity.

instead you should have bought more of them back then.

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foobarian
3 hours ago
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Think on the bright side, at least you didn't spend 10000 BTC to buy pizza... speaking of which, Bitcoin Pizza Day coming up in just over a week!

https://www.coinbase.com/learn/crypto-glossary/what-is-bitco...

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rollyboo
2 hours ago
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Feels less like "ai cracked crypto" and more like having an insanely patient technical friend sitting next to you for 12 hours doing digital archaeology.
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IshKebab
2 hours ago
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Nowhere is it described as "AI cracked crypto".
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anon291
1 hour ago
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Except your friend doesn't need to be paid and has limitless energy.
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zahlman
50 minutes ago
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> bot tried 3.5 trillion passwords before decrypting an old wallet backup

> After finding a mnemonic that actually turned out to be their old password a few weeks ago, the user dumped their entire college computer files in Claude in a last-gasp effort. The bot uncovered an old backup wallet file that it successfully decrypted, while also uncovering a bug in the password configuration that was preventing recovery up to that point.

So it switched from brute-force searching passwords against a file, to brute-force searching files against a password?

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fontain
2 hours ago
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The story is confusing some people.

Claude found a file on the computer that the wallet owner had not found. Claude didn't crack a password or do anything magic, it just searched for a file that the wallet owner had not thought to search for before.

So, where the wallet owner had previously only tried to access /Users/example/wallet.dat, Claude thought, "why don't I check if there is another wallet.dat file elsewhere on the system?" which it did.

The outcome is the same, it is great that Claude tried something that the wallet owner hadn't tried, but this is more an example of how dumb humans can be rather than how smart Claude is.

The trillions of passwords are a red herring and unrelated to the solve.

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VadimPR
2 hours ago
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Claude is also surprisingly good at analyzing system issues on a Linux system and solving them!
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moduspol
1 hour ago
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Yesterday I had ChatGPT walk me through fixing my single-node k3s cluster. It required rebuilding the sqlite database (while skipping a few corrupted records), then clearing the containerd cache, and then finally deleting a somehow-corrupted Secret record, and then recreating it.

Without it I would have given up way earlier, but the infinite patience to keep slurping in error messages and continue to troubleshoot really worked out.

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internet101010
1 hour ago
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Yeah Claude is really, really good there. You tell it the distro and the problem and it will solve it. Saved me a lot of pain when it came to swapping out an encrypted boot drive and was good about emphasizing the order of operations required for what I would consider a higher risk/complexity situation.
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PeterStuer
2 hours ago
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Not just Linux. Whiz at system management on Windows as well.
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ecommerceguy
3 hours ago
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Does Claude turn out to be what 'Quantum' was promised; crack bitcoin? This could be fun.
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afrltp
3 hours ago
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Claude found an old wallet and then ran btcrecover on that. The question is why the user could not find an old wallet with any numbers of Unix tools himself.

Since we are dealing with Anthropic, the entire story could be staged of course.

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luxuryballs
49 minutes ago
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So you’re telling me he used a computer to search all the files and found the old backup? computer file systems are truly proving to be revolutionary technology!
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yapyap
56 minutes ago
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“ Out of frustration, cprkrn then dumped their whole college computer into Claude. This was when the AI discovered an older backup file of the wallet from December 2019 hidden in cprkrn's data.”

… this dweeb had a file containing their seed in their backup, claude just searched through the files

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hansmayer
1 hour ago
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On a purely technical level - cool. But I still cannot get over the impression that even in this case LLMs show us how they are mainly useful to grifters. I mean, 5 Bitcoins worth 400K USD. Why? What intrinsic value does Bitcoin deliver? It's like trading for monopoly money.
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hasteg
3 hours ago
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Claude ran a ctrl+f on his file system. Groundbreaking. Insane the dude hadn't figured this out for himself considering a few years salary was just sitting there.
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altcognito
3 hours ago
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> The bot uncovered an old backup wallet file that it successfully decrypted, while also uncovering a bug in the password configuration that was preventing recovery up to that point.

I know that we're all experts in archaic backup mechanisms and the encryption systems they used, but I think this qualifies as doing more than Ctrl+F

Also, it is right there in the article.

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FlamingMoe
3 hours ago
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Would be worth a lot more if he had done this sooner and put it in the market 5 or 6 years ago.
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nl3s
3 hours ago
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BTC was valued at about $50k 5 years ago and about $10k 6 years ago. Now it is at about $80k.

So I guess he might be glad he didn’t figure it out earlier.

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emsign
1 hour ago
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And next to this article are two article recommendations:

Claude-powered AI coding agent deletes entire company database in 9 seconds <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...>

Claude Code deletes developers' production setup, including its database and snapshots <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...>

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TruffleLabs
3 hours ago
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"the user dumped their entire college computer files in Claude in a last-gasp effort."

Claude has limits that would make this simple statement be much more complicated-

Via Claude "So the chat upload file size limit is actually 500MB per file (not 30MB as many third-party sources claim - those appear to be outdated). The 20-file-per-chat cap and the 30MB-per-file limit in Projects remain consistent across plans. The real constraint at any subscription level remains the context window - how many tokens Claude can hold in memory at once during a conversation. "

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plqbfbv
3 hours ago
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> Claude has limits that would make this simple statement be much more complicated-

I guess the user simply pointed Claude Code at a local folder containing all the backups and files, and Code went through them via find/ls/etc

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NoHomoNoCry
28 minutes ago
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10 years ago a 500mb hard drive was not unheard of and he may not have maxed out his storage. Also, cloud storage is more prevalent now. I must admit this does sound a bit sensational.
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wahnfrieden
49 minutes ago
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this is fake clickbait.
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j3s
1 hour ago
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blatant ad on the frontpage again
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triyambakam
3 hours ago
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How did they convince Claude they hadn't stolen it?
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SV_BubbleTime
3 hours ago
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Maybe they said they were gay?
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sillysaurusx
3 hours ago
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(Relevant; there was a “gay jailbreak” thread a week or so ago. I laughed.)
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morpheos137
2 hours ago
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i am not understanding why could'nt a deterministic dictionary program do it?
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doublerabbit
3 hours ago
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Claude hallucinate me a bitcoin address with unlimited money in it please.
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josefritzishere
3 hours ago
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OK, that's impressive
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ChrisArchitect
3 hours ago
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ion098
3 hours ago
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Is this not the link to this discussion?
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ZoneZealot
3 hours ago
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Guessing the HN admins merged the post into this, which carries the comments.
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Alifatisk
3 hours ago
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I've tried Claude Code with another LLM, it's very good at doing tasks and figuring things out. So this made me wonder, even though we know how good Claude models is, maybe the true value is in the harness now?
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