'Backrooms' Stuns with $81M Debut
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peteforde
3 hours ago
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I'm a long-term "OG" Kane Pixels fan. I took a friend to see the opening night preview and we both loved it.

Anyone not familiar with Kane - who was 16 when he started making his "found footage" films in Blender - the guy is a truly brilliant mind. Listening to him talk... you can close your eyes and he speaks like someone middle aged. It's almost uncanny.

Anyhow, in addition to his genuinely excellent Backrooms videos, I highly recommend you turn off the lights and take in his The Oldest View series as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjY897CCu4g&list=PLVAh-MgDVq...

He painstakingly recreated a random demolished suburban Texas mall from archival footage. It's wild how good he is at this.

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samtheDamned
2 hours ago
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I wasn't aware he was behind the oldest view. That makes me more excited to see this movie because that was really good on what couldn't have been much of a budget to begin with.
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idbnstra
3 hours ago
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I’m pretty sure someone else did a majority of the mall recreation, but i may be wrong
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ramenat2am
2 hours ago
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That really shows the hunger for original stories and IC among cinephiles.

Major studios were too afraid to produce something fresh instead of numberless sequels and reboots in the last decade or so.

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darth_avocado
1 hour ago
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Matt Damon talked about this somewhere. The risk aversion stems from the move away from DVD sales. Historically a lot of low and mid budget movies relied on DVD sales to recoup costs even if theater releases didn’t get you as much money as you expected. With the safety net gone, studios don’t want to take the risk. They make big budget movies with massive marketing budgets that rely on known IP and established fan bases to guarantee income. This also ensures that the story itself is average because you want an average fan to like it.

I think calculus somewhere has changed that is allowing these small/mid sized movies to be made again.

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lazypenguin
59 minutes ago
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It’s because nobody has made Steam for Movies. Let me have a movie collection that I can buy movies $1-$5 per movie and never lose it and I promise you I will buy a lot more movies. Just like people buy hundreds of steam games
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whyenot
2 minutes ago
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As someone already mentioned. Steam for movies already exists (iTunes, also Amazon’s offering). The problem seems to be that hardly anyone wants to actually own a movie anymore. There are places where the ownership model seems to still be thriving (books), but for video and audio, ownership (vs. streaming or renting) is largely dead.
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1123581321
5 minutes ago
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You can buy at several places that interop with each other—iTunes and Amazon are the two biggest. They don’t have literally every movie, but they have most that most people want to watch. https://moviesanywhere.com/participants

Cost ranges from $5-30. Fewer dirt cheap sales than Steam, but the standard price point at launch is lower, in exchange.

(Having to explain “buying movies” makes me feel old!)

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mrkpdl
47 minutes ago
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The iTunes movie store launched 20 years ago. It’s far from perfect but it is essentially steam for movies. Sadly it’s been de-emphasised over time. But it is still there and was pretty good for a while.
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righthand
6 minutes ago
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The iTunes movie store is not friendly outside of the Apple ecosystem. Making the entire idea not really affordable since you need a expensive electronic device to utilize it sanely. Might as well find another way to get to it at that point.
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petercooper
2 hours ago
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This year seems to be turning a bit of a corner. Of the top box office movies so far this year there's Michael, Project Hail Mary, Hoppers, Wuthering Heights, GOAT.. with Obsession and Backrooms rapidly rising.

Last year it was basically F1 and Minecraft (and while not sequels, both are arguably well known "franchises" outside of movies - but I guess MJ and Wuthering Heights are too ;-)).

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torben-friis
1 hour ago
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Wuthering Heights was a remake, and Hail Mary was also a safeish bet since it's a novel by the same guy as The Martian.

Not to say that it isn't an improvement, but we're still pretty far from seeing American cinema catching up to the world stage in originality, let alone to the golden Hollywood era.

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peteforde
1 hour ago
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I don't think it's a hot take to say: give Kane Parsons the keys to the kingdom.
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manquer
1 hour ago
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Is it though?

Backrooms was a quite successful web series on YT which in turn originated in 4chan boards.

Only the medium being sourced from is changing from successful Broadway shows, popular novels or comic books in the years past. The calculus remains the same - properties with name recognition even from other formats tend to be green-light.

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Joeboy
1 hour ago
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The big IP films got better distribution and marketing, but there hasn't really been a shortage of original films produced over the last decade. The big franchise movies are a small proportion of films produced.
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sandworm101
1 hour ago
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But is this fresh content? Back rooms and liminal spaces have a history in games and websites. This wasnt an out there pitch. This was an identified interest area put on screen. A good movie, but not something totally new.
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fontain
1 hour ago
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Does it qualify as something fresh? I guess fresh to cinemas but it is well established IP that has a readymade audience. Certainly a risk compared to Spider-Man: Another Adventure Again but the risk was in the execution. A lot like the Slenderman movie. Something like Iron Lung would be a better example of fresh cinema?
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atleastoptimal
1 hour ago
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All they had to do was simply hire a talented person who knows how to make compelling narrative art. This is lost on the movie industry, though Hollywood has been treading water for over a decade now, failing to examine its failures and coasting on inertia.

In general, there is sooo much free money on the ground for large, hierarchical American corporations to do the following

1. Give young talented people resources and freedom

2. Don't put them through endless bullshit internal status games

The reason why the tech industry in the US thrives so much is partially due to the fact that it is one of the few industries that gives people high salaries and agency in their roles without a huge amount of experience.

Almost everywhere else is just an artifically gated series of internal politics, nepotism and pointless rituals in too-big-to-fail industries, which attract people who prefer these games over actual results.

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dgan
1 hour ago
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I practically never watch any movies because they are almost always trash, but decided to go watch Obsession after seeing a youtuber (penguinZ) talking positively about it

Yeah it's pretty good. I am in my late 30. Excited for Backrooms which isnt yet available

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spartanatreyu
37 minutes ago
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No spoilers below:

The movie was great but it's not a stand-alone movie, it is a small piece of the full story so don't go in thinking that everything will be explained and tied up in a neat little bow.

The movie takes place in Kane Pixel (the movie director's) youtube series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVAh-MgDVqvDUEq6qDXqO...

It makes a lot more sense if you watch the full youtube series first.

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collinmcnulty
21 minutes ago
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I am aware of the existence of the web series but have never seen any of it, and I felt it was a great standalone experience. The lack of explanation I think worked really well.
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Modified3019
3 hours ago
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I really enjoyed it. I had no idea what a “backrooms movie” would end up being, but it was exactly what I could have hoped for having enjoyed his other work. Honestly creators from youtube putting out movies recently has probably been the most interested in going out to see something in years.
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ChrisMarshallNY
2 hours ago
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I enjoyed Impulse.

It looked a lot more polished than what I'd expect from an indie producer, though.

I liked it, and it's a shame that it was killed. Kind of a "slow burn," though, so I think I know why it was killed.

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portly
2 hours ago
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I also thought obsession was decent. Spooked me a bit like horrors used to do when I was little.
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wewewedxfgdf
3 hours ago
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I saw it. I'm not a young Internet kid. And I enjoyed it - it's quite clever, I never cringed at terrible dialogue, people behaved in ways that you would expect them to in strange circumstances. Worth seeing. Amazing it was made by a 20 year old.
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Triphibian
21 minutes ago
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Backrooms and a new Boards of Canada record coming out on the same weekend feels like some kind of cultural signal.
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lwansbrough
2 hours ago
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I think people are excited for new ideas in cinema. A24’s track record is far from perfect, but I respect their willingness to try things. In my opinion, this movie is no exception. Very meandering and largely devoid of any real plot. Did a good job holding the tension at points, but ultimately fell flat in delivering on that tension.

Probably worth a watch if you enjoy the genre. If you’re someone who just enjoys a good story, this is a pretty easy skip.

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fmajid
1 hour ago
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Chiwetel Ejiofor is a phenomenal actor, that probably helped. This is more of an indictment of Hollywood’s creative bankruptcy than anything, strip-mining Star Wars or Marvel will only take you so far.
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HDBaseT
31 minutes ago
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Sucks this film had exclusivity rights for different cinemas.
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squidsoup
3 hours ago
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Showing alongside Obsession, another horror film made by a YouTuber.
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unsnap_biceps
2 hours ago
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Neither of these two movies are my jam, but I'm glad they are finding success. It's giving me hope that we're going to get a revitalized movie industry focusing on new IP and talent.
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candlemas
1 hour ago
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And Iron Lung earlier this year.
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HDBaseT
31 minutes ago
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Iron Lung was pretty shit though.
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deadbabe
1 hour ago
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Now that Backrooms has been a hit, I wonder if we’ll ever get a House of Leaves movie, which was somewhat of an inspiration for the original backrooms lore.
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moralestapia
40 minutes ago
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Glad to see another 4chan original going mainstream.

<:)

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ChrisArchitect
1 hour ago
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The what? Horror something? ....started on 4chan? Yeah, immediate aboutface here. And reading wiki articles about it that throw around words like "creepypasta" like that's widely understood?

Liminal spaces I get. Reminds of Severance. And anyways, how is this worth going to a theater for? <Shrug> A24 has done well. Is 81M considered breaching 'mainstream'? Because these niche horror things being portrayed as part of the greater 'culture' is tiring.

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peteforde
1 hour ago
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This is not the reaction of someone trying to keep an open mind, especially given that this isn't your usual cup of tea.

If you can get over your preconceived notions, I'd bet that you'd really enjoy this movie. It's extremely well executed and genuinely unsettling without ever getting gory, comedic or stupid.

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altairprime
58 minutes ago
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A darkened theater with a glowing screen is precisely the sort of liminal space that is the topic of the movie. $20 to fall through the skin of the world for a couple hours? Seems like a no-brainer to me, given how rare and precious any liminal feeling at all is these days. And, if I go support this, maybe they’ll finally make a House of Leaves movie. One can dream.
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