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I originally felt more confident going to a plastic surgeon, though even though the doctor oversaw the process, it was being done by highly trained technicians. That's probably more ideal anyway because it's very manual and meticulous work, so (IMO) you want someone who's done it a thousand times--not someone who did a nose job yesterday, a boob job the day before, and only does a hair transplant every couple of weeks.
I'd assume the techs in Turkey are about as experienced as you can get.
The surgery just moves the follicles around your own scalp. Body hair transplant can be done but is relatively uncommon, donor hair from other people (or animals) requiring a lifetime on immune system suppressing drugs as with an organ transplant is virtually unknown.
No, it's not pubic hair and you don't need to have a hairy back or chest, and no, there are not millions of low-status Turkish men walking around with scarred heads because they sold their scalp to a foreigner.
They take hair follicles from the back of your head, the "safe donor area" that is genetically immune to balding, and move them to the thinning areas. The total amount of hair on your head remains exactly the same, it's just repositioned to give the illusion of uniform coverage and eliminate bald spots.
That's also why it's not a miracle cure for baldness - you're limited by the amount of hair follicles available in the donor area.
See: https://ishrs.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/donor-area-asse...
Also I notice my wife and female friends NEVER seem to notice when someone has plugs.
When I occasionally point it out, they're always surprised.
I haven't done it as I don't need it, but I would say anyone on the fence, just do it.
From what I know it's easier to keep what you have that get a transplant so fire up that HIMs subscription
It doesn't come from getting legitimate validation from others. It comes from one's own fear of aging and their own mortality. Sorry, but we all shrivel up like a raisin by the end. Trying to beat that back with these means just seems so futile. Spend that cash on therapy instead to tackle your body dysmorphia.
Survivorship bias, you only notice the plastic surgery that isn't good. Most of the time it's invisible, your brain doesn't process the individual change, you just get the sense that the person looks better/less tired/more put together.
>Lip injections are obvious
Same phenomenon, but even if they are obvious some people like that aesthetic, in the same way that dyed hair/painted nails are obvious, but that's the point
>Leg lengthening, I mean have you seen the proportions after
For some men it is far better to be 6' with wonky proportions than 5'7" with perfect proportions. There is far more hate directed towards short men than men with long legs.
>Hair transplants too. I mean are we acting like steve jobs wasn't still a handsome man with his grey thinning head?
Not everyone is as handsome as Steve Jobs. If you have a handsome face you can get away with balding, if not then its a further infliction on how people percieve you.
>Sorry, but we all shrivel up like a raisin by the end
If we all die after 80 or so years then what's the point of doing anything? Why get a job, why put any effort into personal grooming?
This was in 2023, and I'm largely happy with the results since then. If I had my 20s to do over again, I would have tried to go just the medication route and avoid the procedure. I do think that would have resulted in a more natural appearance vs. what I have now.
This is so extremely harmful. I wish you the best of luck.
It's a case of having the right people at the right place, at the right time. Turkey have some of the leading doctors and clinics in this field, and have had for years. They were also located in a place which was close to both customers from Europe and the Middle-East, and could offer FUE (Follicular Unit Extraction) procedures at a very nice price.
Even the very top doctors there were charging a relatively modest price, compared to their (more) western colleagues. And I guess with the sheer volume they'd go through, they discovering new best practices, techniques, etc. along the way.
Back when I did research on this, now 15 years ago, the industry was starting to really take off. This was reflected in the prices that the best clinics charged. Some of them jumped up 50% in a short time, when photo-driven social media like Instagram started blowing up.
And then a whole industry sprung out of it. Many excellent clinics, tons more mediocre (to horrendous) ones that are only trying to compete on price.
Guess this also goes for the dental industry there.
The etymology here is interesting and has a looooong history. The country has officially been named Türkiye for over a century.
More directly, at the risk of a handwavey evo-psych just-so story: Hundreds of millions of years of evolution, perhaps? A ton of characteristics driving attraction are signals of health / youthfulness. Weight, musculature, nice skin, good teeth, etc. And yeah, good hair! Male pattern baldness is definitely associated with aging even though many people will probably spend more of their lives follicularly challenged than they did with good hair.
However the way the brain responds to it is incontestable, and no amount of body positivity will change the impact it has, thus for an individual it makes much more sense to pay a few thousand to conform to beauty standards than hope that everyone you meet will turn off their primate brain when interacting with you.
If it makes someone feel happier to not be bald, great. It should come from making them happy, not them having to avoid social stigma though.
I'm not unhappy with how I look. I'm happier after a haircut and a hot shave. Sometimes we make choices because they take us from "whatever" to "this rules".
If I were bald, I would totally go there and do the same.
I visited one of those Bosley places in the US. The pitch came across as very...predatory? It did not inspire confidence. They would only consider scheduling you for the surgery if you could demonstrate that you'd use other measures for a year, meaning finasteride, one of those laser hat things, etc. They did talk about how few surgeons there were that do this stuff well though. Also talked about scalp injections I think?
It's been several years. I just decided to let it go naturally and deal with it.
I don't want to defend the esthetic surgery industry in general, which I do think tends to be quite predatory, but doesn't this sound like the opposite of that? If they really wanted to fleece you, wouldn't they offer surgery instead of the safer and cheaper treatments?
Tip: Bald people the worst to fleece.
Unless you're already at full Norwood VII pre-transplant, you have hair that you'll continue to lose post-transplant. Being on the medications that help stop that in its tracks will mean a better looking long term result and keep you from having to undergo future transplants.
1. the turkish government had reasons for trying to get people to use "Türkiye" instead.
2. It's still not working.
I 100% thought this was about birds until clicking
Same, I was really curious reading about the hair transplant industry organized by turkeys and got really disappointed :(
> Turkey’s billion-dollar hair-transplant industry is the result of a constant process of innovation. [...] it’s also a tale of “hacked” medical equipment and algorithmic craftsmanship
Seems there was some actual "hacking" involved, if they had to patch medical equipment, but who knows how much of the article is actually about that, I can't actually see any text.
Turn off JS
No idea if ZME science is reputable at all.
Edit: I love that someone downvoted me for offering my hair follicles to a random stranger, downvotes truly happen randomly here :)
