Chipotlai Max
85 points
4 hours ago
| 9 comments
| github.com
| HN
avaer
2 hours ago
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NAL but I'd be worried about treading into CFAA territory with things like this. In the US, the law allows draconian penalties if you find yourself on the wrong side.

Something like yt-dlp is just downloading public data, which I can see being defensible as automating the use of a service.

But this commandeers remote machine resources to do your compute in ways clearly not intended by the provider. I don't know how ethical it is, but I definitely wouldn't want to argue this isn't "hacking" (the bad kind) in criminal court.

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hn_throwaway_99
1 hour ago
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Not to mention, did this "hack" ever really work? When the original post went viral showing the Chipotle chatbot reversing a linked list, I (among others who posted their results online) immediately tried it and didn't get the same results, so I always assumed it was just a faked screenshot.
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avaer
56 minutes ago
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Whether something ever worked is not correlated with traction in a world where verification is measured by likes.
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arthurcolle
17 minutes ago
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You really think someone would do that? Lie on the internet?
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Shadowmist
38 minutes ago
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Their chat bot is pretty bad so who knows.
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qingcharles
39 minutes ago
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And if you think CFAA is bad, then the states have even harsher versions too. Illinois' version specifically criminalizes any violation of a ToS.
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jawns
2 hours ago
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Yeah, this is not slap on the wrist stuff. I think the creator expects nothing more than a C&D letter, but they could face prison time if a zealous federal prosecutor wants to make an example of them.
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hootz
1 hour ago
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And with direct links to his pesonal profile and company. Uh...
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jedbrooke
46 minutes ago
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I’d been thinking about if something like this would be possible for https://chatjimmy.ai/ . The underlying model is only llama 3 8B but I’m curious what coding harnesses would be like at 17k tok/s
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hung
57 minutes ago
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Reminds me of when I used the Amazon.com AI Chatbot (was called Rufus and they renamed it to Alexa for shopping) to do things like write fizbuzz etc. Looks like they patched it to refuse though.
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Falimonda
1 hour ago
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Pivot it to providing AI to underprivileged communities / youth / the homeless and you'll generate some good will for your trial! Best of luck!
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sailfast
1 hour ago
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How has this not been patched by the company? Hasn't this been in the wild for a long time already?
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slater
1 hour ago
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How are they not gonna get sued to smithereens?
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Avicebron
2 hours ago
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based, move on.
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stronglikedan
2 hours ago
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and they say the hardest thing in software is naming things, pffft...
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simonsarris
2 hours ago
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reminiscent of when people were trying to mine bitcoin in the background of web pages, or with more trad malware
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