Scientists ejected from diabetes conference for distributing journal reprints
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| arstechnica.com
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embedding-shape
1 minute ago
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> “They physically grabbed us, forced us out of the conference center, and now are telling us we can no longer attend this meeting,” Kelly told MedPage Today, which first reported the incident. “They’re taking our lanyards. It really has come to this in America. Censorship is real. America needs to stand up. Scientists, stand up. Physicians, stand up.”

It's become very evident from the outside that the best time to stand up was yesterday, and you might already be too far down the slope to be able to quickly recover for this. I really do feel for all Americans who just want to have a normal life with an average quality of life or above, but at one point the environment around you change so quickly that that stops being even a possibility in the future. If your life hasn't been affected yet, it will be shortly.

The best day to stand up against the ongoing censorship and repression might have been yesterday, but the second-best day to do so is today. You really need to start caring about this before it's way to late. One "no kings protest" every 6 months is not gonna do anything, what you need is wide solidarity across industries, and a real general strike across the country. The second you do this, you'll see that the many and poor can control the few and rich.

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KnuthIsGod
34 minutes ago
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".Some questioned how handing out reprints of an editorial published in the ADA’s own journal, at the ADA’s own annual conference, could be construed as a violation of that code.."

The God Emperor is not to be questioned.

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jfengel
1 hour ago
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Headline is weird. It's not a copyright thing, as I had assumed. It was because it was an editorial criticizing how the administration is running the NIH.
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Terr_
1 hour ago
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And not an arbitrary editorial, but:

> > Some questioned how handing out reprints of an editorial published in the ADA’s own journal, at the ADA’s own annual conference, could be construed as a violation of that code.

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bluGill
22 minutes ago
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Protesting is not allowed by the rules.

Though there is a good case that breaking that rule is the best action. Getting kicked out probably did more for their cause then their protest. They just need the guts to publicly stand by.

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Forgeties79
1 hour ago
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An editorial published in the (reputable) journal Diabetes Care, which they handed out at a diabetes conference. I imagine if it wasn’t critical of the administration they would not have been told to stop, but this is Louisiana so
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eesmith
1 hour ago
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And one of the people kicked out was Steven Kahn, a co-author of the editorial, and editor-in-chief of Diabetes Care.
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mcswell
6 minutes ago
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I'm hoping the Streisand Effect will take hold, and this editorial becomes the most read article ever of that journal. I've posted this news on my FB (yes...) page. And I downloaded a PDF, in case the journal takes the editorial down.
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shevy-java
27 seconds ago
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Well, there is one problem here: not everyone is interested in diabetes/nutrition. So the Streisand effect may kick in with regards to the ousted individuals, but I am not sure it will generate more interest in the topic/paper at hand. For instance, I am not particularly interested in diabetes per se; I'd be more interested in molecular medicine and what not. Either way the current administration is very hostile to science. It is kind of a sign of a dictatorship model. Trump wants to be the final authority. His cognitive decline is enormous though, it's like a broken stick that will remain broken.
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nritchie
1 hour ago
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Science funding in the US is in crisis. We need to stand with those bold enough to point out that the emperor has no clothing.
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netsharc
21 minutes ago
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The ending of that story is interesting:

> The Emperor was vexed, for he knew that the people were right; but he thought the procession must go on now! And the lords of the bedchamber took greater pains than ever, to appear holding up a train, although, in reality, there was no train to hold.

From https://americanliterature.com/author/hans-christian-anderse...

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hnarayanan
38 minutes ago
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I used to do this when I was in grad school as a matter of principle. F the man.
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lucasRW
8 minutes ago
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Understandable, we've all been at events where some "dissidents" try to get their point across my aggressively following you, going to places they haven't been invited, etc, etc.
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shevy-java
2 minutes ago
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Trump and his cronies try to repurpose everything they slurp up into a propaganda tool. Recently Hegseth babbled about how Europe will perish because of immigration. Today five people were evicted from a conference about science. Their crime? Not supporting Trump.

Something is fundamentally broken in the USA. It's like Neo-Russia, or rather handled like that by those cronies.

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KnuthIsGod
39 minutes ago
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Tomorrow Robert Kennedy will announce that diabetes is fake news,does not exist and can become cured by taking ivermectin and avoiding seed oils and Tylenol....

The next day Trump will have the 173rd Airborne kidnap the entire editorial board of the American Diabetic Association and will get them good plated with fake gilt from Temu.

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officialchicken
31 minutes ago
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And the JDF already has the Diabetes Peace Prize Award ready to send to him asking for the shifting of all research funds into "awareness" marketing.
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