Ask HN: Just me feeling that Mythos/Fabel just 1% there?
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15 hours ago
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I keep pushing the frontier models to the limits and have several projects they still can’t solve, I benchmark new models on. Every new model make it easier to “solve” the even harder problems, but still I have this feeling that they rely 99% on my ideas. They just don’t get the ideas and I have to hold their hand and help them.

Don’t get me wrong, anything that is close to done already they excel at and can combine existing techniques. I’m talking about new ideas models have never seen before.

Example I have this hobby project that push what’s possible with route optimization. Yes it’s close to SOTA and way more efficient than all (?) other solutions out there (punnerud.github.io/mpee/), but I have to hold the model in the hand and brainstorm ideas on how to compress a matrix.

And it’s just not a one time thing, happens like 40-50 times in few days.

The 1% there is this “new ideas” part. Why can I come up with all these, and not the model? A really hard reval to create. Now this project is open, later I am thinking about making a frontier project in the same way, keeping it away from the public and using it as a benchmark. It’s that the best way to test for new ideas in models?

discordance
14 hours ago
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"If we ever quit or retire we have to give back our augmented brains and cyborg bodies, and there wouldn’t be much left after that; there are countless ingredients that make up the human body and mind, like all the components that make up me as an individual with my own personality: sure, I have a face and voice to distinguish myself from others, but my thoughts and memories are unique only to me, and I carry a sense of my own destiny; each of those things is just a small part of it, and I collect information to use in my own way, and all of that blends to create a mixture that forms me and gives rise to my consciousness."

— Major Motoko Kusanagi, Section 9 field commander

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leonidasrup
12 hours ago
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The quote is from Ghost in the Shell (1995 film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell_(1995_film)

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punnerud
14 hours ago
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Not just experience or prior knowledge; more like a way to generalise knowledge and connect the dots with little training data.
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Lockal
11 hours ago
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As we know, Pi constant contains all human knowledge encoded in some part of it, and modern computers calculated 1% of Pi!

(there are 2 mistakes in the sentence above)

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