Ask HN: Is anyone using the A2A protocol?
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by asim
15 hours ago
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The A2A protocol is an agent to agent protocol from Google. I was looking at it 6 months back but it didn't feel like I really understood how to use it at that point. Probably because we were all still trying to figure out agents and then the MCP protocol became quite a big deal. But now I'm starting to think that once an agent has tools and services and data and then contacts. Actually, the point of interaction becomes the agent itself and then if you build other agents you would want them to interact because they have the most relevant context and ability to answer whatever queries. So I was just curious to know if anyone is using this yet?

https://github.com/a2aproject/A2A

kordlessagain
5 minutes ago
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All of this protocol crap is a distraction. What's important is allowing agents talk to each other in their current scope and ACLs, including for their ability to talk to and discover tools. When Anthropic decided MCP was a good idea and published what they did, I ranted for days. Ok, I'm still ranting.

Now, discovery is important and there is a post right now on the front page about it. But what everyone is probably missing is that a) agents with tokens and services that honor those tokens is already handled well with HTTP. Fun fact, the original HTTP protocol (does anyone do RFCs anymore?) didn't support POSTs! So, most calls can be boiled down to doing a GET request somewhere with a token the remote end understands. Layer on SSL to hide the ? parameters, assuming it's easy to get certs mapped to your house network.

Discovery can be handled a bunch of different ways but given the nature of where the agents are running, it can be DIFFICULT to connect them (hole poking comes to mind). Of course you could run stuff in the cloud. But, if you care about sovereignty, you probably want to avoid anything that will "lock" you into a service (or a single agent/model for that matter).

What's 100% missing is payments, of course. Meet the 402, PAYMENT REQUIRED. Cloudflare (grumble) has something for that, but they stole it from Lightning Lab's very own roasbeef's Aperture project a while back, which implements payments with the Lightning network.

Make a bulk payment to a Bitcoin address. Stuff it in a Lightning invoice, send it to someone, they extract it and update the server to let you in. If you decided they ripped you off, close the invoice and the funds are refunded.

Now, I know a lot of people are skeptical about Bitcoin, but I really do think micropayments are useful for agent-to-agent comms. That's why I threw down the idea on a page about two years ago...so I wouldn't' forget: https://ahp.nuts.services/

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simonreiff
2 hours ago
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AI infrastructure/tools developer here (www.hic-ai.com). I considered the A2A protocol carefully, but I decided a while ago that, from my perspective, the A2A protocol was not solving the correct problem. There is no distinction (from the perspective of an agent) between a communication from Agent A to Agent B, on the one hand, and a communication from Agent A to "future Agent A", on the other. In fact, agents have no inherent sense of identity at all, so there is no inherent notion of a unique Agent A. The notions like "Agent A" received a message or that "Agent A" is sending a message to a different agent (or to its future self) are all inextricably intertwined with the idea of an agentic identity existing and being well defined in the first place, which it is not. The A2A protocol assumes the existence of such a well-defined agent identity in its presumption that agent cards point to a specific agent that can be discovered and deployed. I also think gRPC adds a significant layer of indirection and obfuscation, plus it's painful to implement. The lack of widespread adoption suggests that A2A is not really solving a real-world problem, compared to MCP, for instance.
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calny
4 hours ago
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Not to great effect, AFAIK. Laurie Voss (creator of npm) had a good presentation a few months back on all the different agent interaction protocols, and was skeptical whether they (including A2A) added much value. https://youtu.be/kqB_xML1SfA?si=lxehX1-_z_dBoZtQ
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fhrow4484
40 minutes ago
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If you're big in the google ecosystem it makes sense:

- gemini-cli can have remote a2a agents connected to it. (See https://github.com/tanaikech/gemini-cli-gas-a2a-subagents and the medium article linked in that repo description.) Haven't tried it but I tried the local use case below.

- can expose a custom Google ADK "agent" via one-liner as a2a, which you can connect to the gemini-cli the same way.

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lazharichir
4 hours ago
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I am using A2A at work. It's a bit like the "microservices architecture" for agents... Allows you or teams to develop agents independently and have them interact as and when they need to. No major hurdles so far.
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asim
3 hours ago
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This was my assumption. Agents will supersede services. There will be many companies way ahead of the curve and the rest of the industry will take 5-10 years to catch up.
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efromvt
1 hour ago
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Why would an agent supersede a service for a well-defined workflow contract that does not require an agentic loop? I assume both will need to exist.
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fizx
1 hour ago
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A2A solves the problem of independently developed agents talking to each other. The bigger problem is "how do i trust your agent works?", which would be solved by having a believable system of Agent Evals, so I could test that your Agent actually does what it says on the box. Otherwise an Agent Directory and automatic dispatch of agents is close to useless.
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dang
4 hours ago
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Related. Others?

The Agent2Agent Protocol (A2A) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43631381 - April 2025 (280 comments)

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asdev
3 hours ago
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Seems like over engineering just build an API in front of your agent, give the other agent the spec in a markdown file.
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pocksuppet
3 hours ago
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why dropbox when you can just rsync
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dewey
3 hours ago
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I'm a fan of that phrasing usually but that's not a good comparison in this case I feel. Agents are perfectly fine to use existing REST APIs. I have yet to see the big selling point for MCP as they are usually a very thin layer on top of an existing API just with a formalized description for each tool.

How is it better than just a REST API with a openapi spec json file?

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dkdcdev
2 hours ago
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you can also put that REST API behind a self-documenting CLI. that’s how I setup my agents to talk to each other
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roblourens
1 hour ago
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On the vscode team we're rebuilding our agent infrastructure on top of a new protocol, AHP: https://github.com/microsoft/agent-host-protocol.

It's a common protocol for talking to a host of multiple agents/harnesses.

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time0ut
1 hour ago
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Ya, we tried it a bit, but have stayed with agent-behind-MCP style patterns for now. I think A2A or something like it will become a big thing as everything matures. It just felt over complicated for our use case. One misconception I had was we would just slap A2A on our existing agents and they’d work well together. Kind of dumb in hindsight.
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winwang
3 hours ago
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(Based off 2-3 month-old recollection, take with a grain of salt)

I had wanted to use it for my agent "network". A2A didn't fit the use case of "trusted agent, and was bloated due to "what if rogue actor". Of course, I could have used it, with all of its roughness, but chose to just vibe my own (before Claude Teams, though I haven't really used that, I think). In the process of creating a server to handle this (I already set up a Scala webserver to administrate/orchestrate hooks). Would love to hear others' suggestions for this.

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inickt
2 hours ago
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I know our sales/business team is pitching it quite a bit (instead of our current end-to-end solution we provide), but no one has quite been able to define the boundaries of how that interacts when we don't own the full solution. Curious how others have been using it. Definitely seems designed for more of an internal or B2B use case where agents have super well defined behavior but are ultimately behind some other system entirely.
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techwizrd
3 hours ago
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I'm using it at work as well. It's quite challenging to manage.
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david_shi
3 hours ago
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I've changed my mind a few times on this, but given how substantial the adoption for MCP has been (Claude and OpenAI both use it for their native integrations) its only a matter of time before consolidation happens.

There's a way higher incentive to build an MCP server than an A2A one, and unless Google makes their default AI search a native A2A client it doesn't feel like it will get the momentum it needs to take off.

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thallavajhula
3 hours ago
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In the past 1 year, I think I've moved from MCP to A2A to Agent <> MCP back again. I have agents still talking to other Agents via A2A for some use cases, but for the most part, it's back to Agent <> MCP now; couple that with tool search/code mode (whatever you want to call it) in your Agentic AI harness, MCPs seem to be the way to go for now.
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bckr
4 hours ago
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We set up something with a registry of AgentCards and a messaging system with SSE streaming—then we realized we didn’t need an agent on the other side so now we have this weird hybrid pattern.

So, no.

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siva7
3 hours ago
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I work at some megacorp and have direct insight about any ai use - nope, not a single use case i witnessed used a2a in the final product. I still don't get a2a but you probably have to work at Google or something to see this as the solution to something.
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reactordev
3 hours ago
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Yes. My agent speaks A2A with itself and others. But my agent is built in layers like an organization.
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chickensong
1 hour ago
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Would love to hear more if you're interested in sharing.
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campak
2 hours ago
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No. I have seen ACP be incredibly helpful in the IDE sense and in things like zo.computer
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nyellin
4 hours ago
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No, it was designed on paper by someone with no understanding of prompt caching and no consideration of latency or token costs
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code51
4 hours ago
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You mean Google doesn't understand prompt caching, latency or token costs?

Or Google teams fail to communicate for such things?

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hypendev
3 hours ago
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This is kind of a loaded question.

"Google" doesn't understand anything, as it isn't one being. Google has also as many average employees as any other company, and they will also come up with bad, corporate, ideas.

Honestly the worst part about the LLM age is that everyone is suddenly an "expert", and that is why we get shitty things like A2A or MCP or whatever the next "shiny" overengineered thing is.

Just like with any new technology, people will crawl out the woodwork to establish "standards" just so they can claim fame, money and attention that comes with it.

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kittikitti
3 hours ago
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A2A is a very high level protocol that's meant to be an entry point for the actual network protocols that allow agents to communicate with others like HTTP, gRPC, and others. The promise of no-code means the concept has to exist as an abstraction.

There's a Kaggle course going on where Google discusses A2A and their thoughts on it. If you're a pure vibe coder who doesn't know how to code, A2A is for you. If you know the basics of programming and could even do some web crawling, there are many accessible options.

Google and the industry is honing in on these vibe coders who will look at 10 million tokens consumed to make a checklist application and think nothing of it. The agent to agent (A2A) protocol is for them. Personally, I think it's useful to describe what I'm already doing to people who aren't experts.

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esafak
2 hours ago
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I had the same question in mind while reading another submission on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48573268

I am not using A2A. I think it is too early for such a thing.

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lherron
3 hours ago
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I uh…still use tmux send-keys. I’ll change as soon as I find a use-case it doesn’t solve. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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baroiall
4 hours ago
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enterprises are, its the future for them. Take a look: https://www.tigera.io/blog/why-we-built-lynx-bringing-contro...
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